<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 12:18 PM, SuStel <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sustel@trimboli.name" target="_blank">sustel@trimboli.name</a>></span> wrote:<span class=""></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><p>Works for me. I don't think its position in the sentence has any
bearing on how it's interpreted.</p></div></blockquote><div>Same, I figured this was the least-controversial variation that I posted.<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><span class="">
</span><p>I don't see these as a spectrum, and these suffixes don't express
what I thought of the nouns at the time; they tell what I think of
them when I say the sentence. <br></p></div></blockquote><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">It's interesting that you don't see these suffixes as a spectrum. I thought it was a good example of a spectrum of something like "increasing belief on my part that this thing can or should be described by this noun", from <b>-qoq</b> ("obviously not such a thing") to <b>-na'</b> ("definitely such a thing"). That's a good point about how they apply at the time of speaking, though. (At first I was going to argue that in the right context they could be taken to mean "what I thought of them at the time", like if they were contrasted with each other in some kind of temporal sequence, but I think that's mostly just because I really liked that example and want to salvage it somehow.)<span class=""></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><p>Same reaction as with the time stamps. <b>'awje'</b> (ok) <b>qa'vIn</b>
(still going?) <b>wornagh</b> (wow, all that?!)<b> DItlhutlhtaH.</b>
But this one really wouldn't make any difference if you conjoined
them with <b>je:</b> the sense of sequence is not very strong.</p></blockquote><p>This is also the example I liked least.<br></p><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><p>The concept isn't
"sequence"; it's "thing that changes in this sequential way."<span class="HOEnZb"></span><br></p></blockquote></div></div>That's a good distinction to keep in mind.<br></div></div>