<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 11:20 AM, SuStel <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sustel@trimboli.name" target="_blank">sustel@trimboli.name</a>></span> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><p>If someone were to write <b>Duj Do'a' Do DoHom vIjuv</b> for <i>I
measure the ship's deceleration,</i> would I balk? No. I might
even use it myself. Do I know for sure that it's right? No, but it
<i>feels</i> right, it doesn't violate any rules, and it is
unmistakable.<span class="HOEnZb"></span></p></div></blockquote><div>It feels right to me too. Mostly, I just wanted to express to mayqel that it was an unusual phrase that we didn't know the specific details of, and that there really wasn't a whole lot we knew for sure about the internal logic of the construction as it relates to other noun constructions.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Just out of curiosity, what kinds of "noun series" modelled along variations of <b>beyHom bey bey'a'</b> would also feel right or wrong to you (and other Klingonists reading this)?<br></div><ul><li>Using a <b>-Hom/-0/-'a'</b> series in a non-direct-object role, e.g.: <b>Qe' chu' luSuchtaH ghomHom ghom ghom'a'</b> <i>"Bigger and bigger crowds visited the new restaurant; the new restaurant drew ever-increasing crowds."</i></li><li>Using a different set of suffixes that suggest some other kind of spectrum, e.g.: <b>qa'qoq qa'Hey qa' qa'na' vIleghtaH</b> <i>"I was dismissive of the idea at first but I am increasingly certain that I'm seeing an actual spirit."</i> (This is an awkward translation.)</li><li>Not using the same base noun but with a series implied anyway, e.g.: <b>jajlo' po pov tlhom puH DujDaj tI'taH </b><i>"He worked on his car from dawn to dusk." </i>(This example also uses a non-direct-object series, in this case a series of timestamps.)</li><li>Nouns that only imply a series in context: <b>'awje' qa'vIn wornagh DItlhutlhtaH</b> <i>"We started with 'root beer', then had coffee, and then we drank warnog."</i><br></li></ul><div><br></div></div><br></div></div>