<div dir="auto">I agree. It has to be {wInobmeH}. The {DInobmeH} makes no sense.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">qunnoq</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sep 29, 2017 22:56, "SuStel" <<a href="mailto:sustel@trimboli.name">sustel@trimboli.name</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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      <p>Whatever the transcript says, I'm pretty sure I hear <b>wInobmeH.</b><br>
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      On 9/29/2017 3:42 PM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="auto">Unless someone intended it as a prefix trick, but
        the prefix trick can't be used in such a way.
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        <div dir="auto">qunnoq</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Sep 29, 2017 22:04, "mayqel qunenoS"
          <<a href="mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com" target="_blank">mihkoun@gmail.com</a>>
          wrote:<br type="attribution">
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            <div dir="auto">> <span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">may'
                luqotlhbogh DInobmeH</span>
              <div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px"><br>
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              <div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">Shouldn't
                  this be {wInobmeH} ? Or is the intended meaning "in
                  order to give the battles" ? But again, this can't be
                  the case, since we have a {lu-} on the {qotlhbogh}.</span></div>
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              <div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">qunnoq</span></div>
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              <div class="gmail_quote">On Sep 29, 2017 21:55, "De'vID"
                <<a href="mailto:de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com" target="_blank">de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com</a>>
                wrote:<br type="attribution">
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                    <div>I don't think it matters that this isn't
                      offlist, since the trailer is public. </div>
                    <div dir="auto"><br>
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                    <div dir="auto">The makers of that video cut off the
                      wrong part of the first sentence. They apparently
                      intended to cut out the reference to Donatu V, but
                      what they did was they cut out the *temporally*
                      corresponding part (at the end) of the sentence
                      rather than the *semantically* corresponding part
                      (at the beginning). If they had just listened to
                      their cut they'd have realised that the sentence
                      starts with {Do'natu vagh...} So frustrating,
                      though I doubt it can be fixed now that it's been
                      released.</div>
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                    <div dir="auto">Here's the transcript:</div>
                    <div dir="auto"><br>
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                    <div dir="auto">
                      <div dir="auto">We have become complacent in the
                        time since we last battled [the Federation at
                        Donatu V].</div>
                      <div dir="auto">{Do'natu vaghDaq DIvI' wIlulpu' 'a
                        qaStaHvIS poH [veb mayonchoHchu'pu']}</div>
                      <div dir="auto"><br>
                      </div>
                      <div dir="auto">They come to destroy our
                        individuality.</div>
                      <div dir="auto">{mapIm ngIq maH 'e' luQaw'meH ghoS
                        chaH}</div>
                      <div dir="auto"><br>
                      </div>
                      <div dir="auto">Great leaders, look to the
                        stars...</div>
                      <div dir="auto">{DevwI''a'pu', Hov tIbejchoH...}</div>
                      <div dir="auto"><br>
                      </div>
                      <div dir="auto">Our destiny has arrived.</div>
                      <div dir="auto">{pawpu' Sanmaj.}</div>
                      <div dir="auto"><br>
                      </div>
                      <div dir="auto">Fire!</div>
                      <div dir="auto">{baH!}</div>
                      <div dir="auto"><br>
                      </div>
                      <div dir="auto">Shall we rise up together and give
                        them the fight they deserve?</div>
                      <div dir="auto">{may' luqotlhbogh DInobmeH
                        matay'taHvIS mavangrup'a'?}</div>
                      <div dir="auto"><br>
                      </div>
                      <div dir="auto">Remain Klingon!</div>
                      <div dir="auto">{tlhIngan maH! taHjaj!}</div>
                      <div dir="auto"><br>
                      </div>
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                        <div class="gmail_quote">On Sep 28, 2017 16:21,
                          "Steven Boozer" <<a href="mailto:sboozer@uchicago.edu" target="_blank">sboozer@uchicago.edu</a>>
                          wrote:<br type="attribution">
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Unfortunately
                                    my computer can’t play sounds.  Have
                                    you transcribed the Klingon for the
                                    rest of that YouTube trailer?  From
                                    what’s been posted on the list so
                                    far I have:</span></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                <p class="m_-4185717298460169177m_-9223127080396294445m_7081311252955621788m_-6972055849190419467MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">"We have
                                    become complacent in the time since
                                    we last battled."<br>
                                    <br>
                                    <b><span style="color:red">mapIm
                                        ngIq maH 'e' luQaw'meH ghoS
                                        chaH. </span></b></span></p>
                                <p class="m_-4185717298460169177m_-9223127080396294445m_7081311252955621788m_-6972055849190419467MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">"They come
                                    to destroy our individuality."
                                    <br>
                                    <br>
                                  </span><b><span style="color:red">DevwI''a'pu',
                                      Hov tIbejchoH</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt"></span></p>
                                <p class="m_-4185717298460169177m_-9223127080396294445m_7081311252955621788m_-6972055849190419467MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">"Great
                                    leaders, look to the stars…
                                  </span></p>
                                <p class="m_-4185717298460169177m_-9223127080396294445m_7081311252955621788m_-6972055849190419467MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
                                <p class="m_-4185717298460169177m_-9223127080396294445m_7081311252955621788m_-6972055849190419467MsoPlainText"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:red">…
                                      [---] Sanmaj
                                    </span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">(?)</span><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:red"></span></b></p>
                                <p class="m_-4185717298460169177m_-9223127080396294445m_7081311252955621788m_-6972055849190419467MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">… our
                                    destiny has arrived."<br>
                                    <br>
                                  </span></p>
                                <p class="m_-4185717298460169177m_-9223127080396294445m_7081311252955621788m_-6972055849190419467MsoPlainText"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:red">baH!</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">       [I
                                    assume}</span></p>
                                <p class="m_-4185717298460169177m_-9223127080396294445m_7081311252955621788m_-6972055849190419467MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">"Fire!"   
                                    [various battle scenes]</span></p>
                                <p class="m_-4185717298460169177m_-9223127080396294445m_7081311252955621788m_-6972055849190419467MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><br>
                                    "Shall we rise up together and give
                                    them the fight they deserve?"<br>
                                    <b><span style="color:red"><br>
                                        tlhIngan maH! taHjaj!</span></b><br>
                                    "Remain Klingon!"</span></p>
                                <p class="m_-4185717298460169177m_-9223127080396294445m_7081311252955621788m_-6972055849190419467MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
                                <p class="m_-4185717298460169177m_-9223127080396294445m_7081311252955621788m_-6972055849190419467MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Thanks,</span></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Voragh</span></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">------------------------------<wbr>------------------------------<wbr>------------------------------<wbr>--------------------
                                  </span></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
                                    De'vID<br>
                                    <br>
                                  </span></p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal">Get to
                                          practising, then. The line
                                          you're listening for
                                          is {DevwI''a'pu', Hov
                                          tIbejchoH}, subtitled "<span style="font-size:10.5pt;background:#fafafa">Great
                                            leaders, look to the stars".</span></p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZEQVw3uV9M" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">https://www.youtube.com/watch?<wbr>v=NZEQVw3uV9M</span></a> </p>
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