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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/29/2017 12:25 PM, nIqolay Q wrote:<br>
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<div>Here's a question: Since the implied subject of weather words
is usually <b>muD</b> (or sometimes maybe <b>chal</b> for
precipitation and the like), how would you all interpret <b>vungwI'</b>?
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<div>Would you read it as the noun "hurricane", as in the part of
the atmosphere that's hurricaning, considered as a single
system? (So you could perhaps say something like <b><i>Florida</i>Daq
ghoSlI' 'Irma' vungwI'</b> <i>"Hurricane Irma is approaching
Florida"</i>, with the assumption that "hurricane" is treated
like a rank or title.)<br>
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<div>Or would it be taken to mean something less specific or
useful, like "the atmosphere as a whole, which happens to be
hurricaning somewhere", assuming it means anything at all?</div>
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<p>Okrand has famously been coy about what the subject of the
weather verbs is. Sometimes it's <b>muD,</b> but only in the way
a meteorologist would explain the science behind it. Generally
they're used without subjects—not that they use indefinite
subjects, though. You're supposed to "just know" what the subject
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<p>I wouldn't assume that <b>vungwI'</b> is the noun form of <i>hurricane</i>
any more than I would assume that <b>SISwI'</b> is the noun form
of <i>rain.</i> Instead of trying to turn it into a noun, use it
as a subjectless verb.</p>
<p><b>tugh </b><i>Florida</i><b>Daq vung; ghoSlI' </b><i>Irma.</i><br>
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