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<p class="MsoNormal">AFAIK all Terran dates are read in cardinal numbers, as if you’re reading each digit individually (e.g. 2-0-1-7):<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">TM, ® (c)<b> je tera' DIS wa'-Hut-Hut-loS</b> <i>Paramount Pictures</i>.
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<p class="MsoNormal">TM, ® c.1994 Paramount Pictures. (SkyBox Copyright)<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>tera' poH jaj wa'</b>,<b> jar wa'</b>,<b> jaj loSDIch</b>,<b> DIS wa'</b>-<b>Hut</b>-<b>Hut</b>-<b>chorgh</b>:<b> HovpoHvetlh latlh nab yIHutlh
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<p class="MsoNormal">Save this Stardate: Sunday, January 4, 1998. (STX)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>tera' jar Soch, DIS wa' Hut jav Hut, maSDaq SaqmeH Qu' wa'DIch HochHom turlu'taHvIS, wej logh lengwI'pu' pa'mey 'oH APOLLO wa'maH wa' ra'ghom bobcho'
<span style="font-variant:small-caps">COLOMBIA</span>'e'. <br>
</b>The Apollo 11 Command Module, <i>Columbia</i>, was the living quarters for the three-person crew during most of the first manned lunar landing mission in July 1969. (NASM)<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">This also applies to century names:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>tera' vatlh DIS poH cha'maH loS bIyIn jeSlaHpa' Hoch <o:p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Be the first to journey to the 24th century. (STX)<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>… <i>qItI'nga'</i> Duj. tera' vatlh DIS poH cha'maH wej HochHom lo'lu'taH
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<p class="MsoNormal">the <i>K'Tinga</i>-class remained in use for most of the 23rd century. (S15)<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>tera' vatlh DIS poH cha'maH loS bong QongmeH <i>qItI'nga'</i> Duj
<i>tI'ang</i> ghompu' DIvI' 'ejDo' <i>'entepray'</i></b> <br>
A sleeper ship of this [<i>K'Tinga</i>] class, the <i>T'Ong</i>, was encountered in the 24th century by the
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>jIvIb. qaSDI’ vatlh DIS poH cha’maH Hut, jImev. <o:p></o:p></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I time-travel to the 29<sup>th</sup> century.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">(lit. “I time-travel into the future. When Century 29 happens, I stop.”) (qep'a' 2016)<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Note the ordinal number isn’t used: <b>cha’maH loS </b> not *<b>cha’maH loSDIch</b>.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">The one exception I know of was the Klingon date in the “Message To Kronos” where the number was read in decimal groups, not individual digits:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>poH tuj bI'reS nungbogh wa' jaj qeylIS DIS chorghvatlh loSmaH jav qaStaHvIS</b> [<i>sic</i>]
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<p class="MsoNormal">In the days that follow the summer solstice in the Year of Kahless 846. ('u'-MTK)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">N.B. </span><b>chorghvatlh loSmaH jav
</b>“eight-hundred forty six” <span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
NOT <b>chorgh-loS-jav </b>“eight four six”.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Is this because it’s a Klingon date, as opposed to those peculiar Terran dates? Or because it’s part of a dating formula, “the Year of Kahless”? Or because
it’s a relatively low number (say under a thousand)?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">--Voragh<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">That I don't know. The Skybox canon suggests that we should spell out the dates. I don't know of other date canon (although I wouldn't be surprised if there was something in Monopoly). Perhaps Voragh may be able to help us in that area.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:30 PM, mayqel qunenoS <<a href="mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com" target="_blank">mihkoun@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Another interesting question which came to mind is the following..<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Do we always need to say {tera' DIS wa'-wa'-pagh-pagh} for "1100" (c.e. or b.c.e.), or can we say too {tera' DIS wa' SaD wa' vatlh} ?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Sep 22, 2017 8:23 PM, "qurgh lungqIj" <<a href="mailto:qurgh@wizage.net" target="_blank">qurgh@wizage.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I think this is the same as in English. If I say "It happened in the year 300" no one knows if I mean CE or BCE, but they assume I mean CE. <br>
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If we had an easy way to talk about negative numbers, then I'd use that for BCE.<br>
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I don't know if I'd get "100 BCE" from {<span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">wa' vatlh DIS qaSpa' tera' DIS pagh} if we hadn't had had this conversation first (or there was more context included). Maybe {tera' DIS wa'-pagh-pagh qaSpa'
tera' DIS pagh, jagh luHIv} - "Terran year 100, before Terran year 0 happened, they attacked the enemy.", but that still feels clunky to me. There's got to be a better way to say it. <br>
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Maybe {tera' DIS wa'-pagh-pagh qaSpa' bov motlh, jagh luHIv} - "Terran year 100, before the usual era happened, they attacked the enemy". I'm not a fan of that either really. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 1:00 PM, mayqel qunenoS <<a href="mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com" target="_blank">mihkoun@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">> I mostly use {tera' DIS} when talking about current Earth time</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Initially, I thought of using the {tera' DIS}; but the problem is that if I say {tera' DIS wa' vatlh}, then how would someone know if I mean "100 c.e." and not "100 b.c.e." ?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Now that I think of it again, perhaps we could say something like {wa' vatlh DIS qaSpa' tera' DIS pagh} for "100 years b.c.e.", and {wa' vatlh DIS qaSpu'DI' tera' DIS pagh} for
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">But the problem is, are the above understood by the average reader ? If you read these, would you understand what I'm trying to say ?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">tera' DIS... ;)<br>
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I use "CE" instead of "AD". That could be {bov motlh}, but I mostly use {tera' DIS} when talking about current Earth time. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Can someone tell me how to say in klingon "Anno Domini" ?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I know we can say {qeylIS bov nubwI'} for "before the era of qeylIS". So initially I thought of saying {christ bov cho'wI'}.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">But then I realized that the verb {cho'} means "to succeed to authority", and not "to succeed (in general)".<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">So, I came up with {christ bov bov veb} for "the next era of the era of christ".<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I think this is correct, but again I'm not certain..<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Would you understand it if you saw it, without knowing the intended meaning ? Can you think of something better ? And if you can, can you tell me too ?<o:p></o:p></p>
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