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<b>tlhIngan juHqo'Daq tlhIng yoSDaq 'oH toQDuj chenmoHlu'meH Daq wa'DIch'e' <o:p>
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1<sup>st</sup> Construction Site: The Kling District, Klingon Home World. (KBoP)<b><o:p></o:p></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">“in the Kling District on the Klingon home world” = one place (i.e. a single shipyard)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>loghDaq lupDujHom qoDDaq bIlengtaHvIS</b>,<b> nIbuQbogh novpu' DaSuv
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<p class="MsoNormal">Battle menacing aliens in a shuttlecraft journey through space. (STX)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">“inside a shuttlecraft in space” = one place (i.e. a single ship)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">versus:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>poSDaq nIHDaq je QamtaHvIS SuvwI'pu'</b>,<b> chaH jojDaq yItnIS lopwI'</b>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The initiate must pass through a gauntlet of warriors. (S9)<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">“on the left (side) and on the right (side)” = two places (i.e. two separate rows of warriors)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">--Voragh<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"> SuStel<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 9/20/2017 9:02 AM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Suppose I write the sentence: <span style="color:#1F497D"><br>
</span>{Qo'noSDaq SoSlI' juHDaq qajatlh, latlh be' vImuSHa'}<span style="color:#1F497D"><br>
</span>"At Qo'noS at your mother's house I told you, that I love another woman".<span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p>Do you agree with the above translation, or is it, that due to the absence of a {je} after the {juHDaq}, the meaning becomes "at your mother's house which is Qo'noS I told you, that I love another woman" ?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>You could interpret it that way. I don't think the lack of a <b>je</b> makes the difference. It could also be interpreted as two separate locatives that both apply simultaneously, one being of a different scope than another.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>In a cavern, in a canyon<br>
Excavating for a mine<br>
Dwelt a miner, forty-niner<br>
And his daughter, Clementine.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>In the verse, the locatives <i>in a cavern</i> and <i>in a canyon</i> are not in apposition to each other. The cavern is within the canyon. The subjects of the sentence both have appositional pairs:
<i>a miner</i> = <i>forty-niner</i> and <i>his daughter</i> = <i>Clementine.</i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p>In your Klingon sentence, it's possible that <b>SoSlI' juH</b> is within the scope of
<b>Qo'noS.</b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p>If the sentence did have a <b>je,</b> the meaning would be different:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><b>Qo'noSDaq SoSlI' juHDaq je qajatlh<br>
</b><i>I speak to you on Kronos and in your mother's home</i><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Here it's possible that you speak to me in both of those places, but not in a single utterance. One day you speak to me on Kronos; another day you speak to me in my mother's house.<o:p></o:p></p>
<pre>-- <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>SuStel<o:p></o:p></pre>
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