<div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">> popwIj 'oH nach</span><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">Isn't here an {-'e'} on {nach} missing ?</span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">qunnoq</span></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sep 14, 2017 8:53 PM, "Felix Malmenbeck" <<a href="mailto:felixm@kth.se">felixm@kth.se</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>I'm thinking «pop» (or «veS popmey») might work. In paq'batlh, Kahless says to Morath (on the subject of a targ that Kahless slew):</div>
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<div>loDnI'wI' bIHoHta'be'</div>
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<div>My brother you failed to kill,</div>
<div>The head is my reward,</div>
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<div>So, here «pop» is used in the sense of a reward that is claimed, rather than one that is willingly given. Whether or not this usage is metaphorical, I cannot say.</div>
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14 sep. 2017 kl. 17:41 skrev SuStel <<a href="mailto:sustel@trimboli.name" target="_blank">sustel@trimboli.name</a>>:<br>
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<div class="m_-4900309378614937698moz-cite-prefix">On 9/14/2017 11:27 AM, nIqolay Q wrote:<br>
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On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 11:00 AM, mayqel qunenoS <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com" target="_blank">mihkoun@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">Are you serious ? Do you really expect this kind of arguments to be taken seriously ?<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">If you're going to be "in-character" and treat Klingon culture as if it's a real thing, then you also have to treat the Klingon language as something we only know about from the incomplete information told to us by a single grouchy
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<div class="gmail_quote">It's one thing to wonder in-character why no one's ever asked Maltz about spoils or why Maltz has never brought them up, but acting like there is some major deficiency in the depiction of Klingon culture simply because Marc Okrand hasn't
worked his way through every entry in Merriam-Webster strikes me as incredibly stupid.
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<p>You have to learn to speak mayqel-ese. I took his initial post to mean, not "Klingon culture and language is stupid because they don't have a word for
<i>spoils,</i>" but "Klingons obviously have to have a word for <i>spoils,</i> don't they?"<br>
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