<div dir="auto">The only interesting points of this passage are the following:<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><span style="color:rgb(128,0,128);font-family:calibri,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:18.3184px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">> qaStaHvIS poHvam, chImchu'bogh loghDaq > taHlaHtaH tarDIghaD, tera' Ha'DIbaHHom </span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="color:rgb(128,0,128);font-family:calibri,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:18.3184px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">> pujHa’qu’.</span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="color:rgb(128,0,128);font-family:calibri,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:18.3184px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif">The {tera' Ha'DIbaHHom} which follows the {taHlaHtaH tarDIghaD} separated from it by a comma, is rather nice because it serves to explain to the reader, what this tarDIghaD actually is.</span><br></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif">The separation by the comma, of the words which follow it, recreate/resemble the way someone would change the tone of his voice if he was actually speaking these words, in order to further define the nature of the tarDIghaD he is talking about.</span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="color:rgb(128,0,128);font-family:calibri,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:18.3184px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="color:rgb(128,0,128);font-family:calibri,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:18.3184px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">> pa' chaw' ngoqvam baghHa’meH ’oH, De'wI'</span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="color:rgb(128,0,128);font-family:calibri,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:18.3184px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> > motlh lo'laH. 'ach Do' 'e' ta' neHbe' 'oH.</span><br></div><div dir="auto"><span style="color:rgb(128,0,128);font-family:calibri,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:18.3184px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif">And here, the interesting part is the {'ach Do'} before the {'e'}.</span><span style="color:rgb(128,0,128);font-family:calibri,arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:18.3184px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif">A long time ago I had written {yadda yadda yadda. 'ach 'e' yadda}.</span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif">Then, two experienced members of this list started to debate whether someone could indeed use a {'ach} before the {'e'}.</span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif">If I remember correctly, then, no consensus finally took place.</span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif">But this tarDIghaD passage, shows that perhaps we can indeed have a {'ach} before an {'e'}.</span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif">On the other hand, since the exact sentence goes {yadda yadda yadda. 'ach Do' 'e' yadda}, perhaps someone could argue, that we don't actually have a {'ach} before the {'e'}, but rather an adverb, in this case {Do'}, which all agree is something which is definitely permitted. And in this case the interpretation of the sentence would be {</span><span style="font-family:sans-serif">yadda yadda yadda. 'ach (Do' 'e' yadda)}.</span></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">But even if the strictest interpretation of the above debate is assumed to be correct, and one cannot place a {'ach} right before a {'e'} in a sao, then according to the tarDighaD passage, one could use it as a workaround to this obstacle, to write {yadda yadda yadda. 'ach adverb 'e' yadda}.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">So, the question is whether the tarDIghaD passage is considered canon.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Alternatively, someone could do whatever the ghe''or he likes, without losing any sleep over canon, tardigrades, opinions of experts, or little devils and angels dancing on one's shoulder giving him advice, and trying to sway him in one or another direction..</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">qunnoq</div><div class="gmail_extra" dir="auto"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sep 13, 2017 6:49 PM, "nIqolay Q" <<a href="mailto:niqolay0@gmail.com">niqolay0@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><b>jagh yIbuStaH! </b>Sometimes I get so into the habit of finding alternate ways to phrase words I forget to check if the word itself already exists.<br></div><div><b></b></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="elided-text">On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 11:41 AM, Steven Boozer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sboozer@uchicago.edu" target="_blank">sboozer@uchicago.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="elided-text">
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