<div dir="auto">Some time, a long time ago, in another thread I had asked more or less exactly the same questions.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Many replied, many things were said, no useful results were made, no light was shed on this matter, and finally, after we got even more confused than we were at the beginning of that thread, we agreed that since a lot of information with regards to the grammar of {ngIq} is still unknown, it is essentially useless.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">qunnoq</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sep 6, 2017 18:21, "Brent Kesler" <<a href="mailto:brent.of.all.people@gmail.com">brent.of.all.people@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 9:45 AM, Steven Boozer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sboozer@uchicago.edu" target="_blank">sboozer@uchicago.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Some examples of {ngIq} for comparison:<br>
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ngIq nuv luHoH<br>
they killed the warriors one by one. ('u'-OPERA)<br>
<br>
yerchajvo' Haw' qamchIynganpu' ngIq nuv luHoH<br>
The people of Qam-Chee, they fled their territory, and were killed one by one (PB)<br>
<br>
nIteb chegh molor ngIq ghoqwI'<br>
One by one Molor's scouts return (PB)<br>
<br>
ngIq raQvaD cha'maH vagh QaS yInob<br>
For each outpost pay 25 forces. (MKE)<br>
<br>
ngIq gholvaD vaghmaH QaS yInob<br>
Pay each player 50 forces. (MKE)<br>
<br>
ngIq gholvo' wa'maH QaS yItlhap<br>
Collect 10 forces from every player. (MKE)<br>
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BTW notice the absence of {-taH} or {-qa'} on the verbs.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>In these examples, "each" would make a good gloss for {ngIq}. But there are other examples that don't fit that idea, also from paq'batlh.</div><div><br></div><div> ngIq tonSaw' lo' 'ej tIqDu' lel</div><div> ngIq tonSaw' lo' 'ej quvqa'</div><div> ngIq tonSaw' lo' 'ej rIn may'</div><div><br></div><div> In one single move, he removed the hearts</div><div> In one single move, he restored his honor</div><div> In one single move, the battle was won<br></div><div><br></div><div>That makes the meaning of {ngIq} almost always ambiguous.</div><div><br></div><div>Why does {ngIq nuv luHoH} mean "They kill each person" instead of "They kill a single person"? </div><div><br></div><div>Why does {nIteb chegh molor ngIq ghoqwI'} mean "one by one Molor's scouts return" instead of "Molor's single scout returned alone"?</div><div><br></div><div>Why does {ngIq tonSaw' lo'} mean "In a single move" instead of "With each move"?</div><div><br></div><div>I don't like that ambiguity, so I avoid {ngIq}.</div><div><br></div><div>bI'reng</div></div></div></div>
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