<div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14.6547px">However, if the {vumlu'wI'} is indeed a meaningless word due to the presence of {-lu'}, then I wonder why there hasn't anywhere (in a book) being made a reference, with regards to the fact that the {-lu'} and {-wI'} can't co-exist in the same word.</span><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14.6547px"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14.6547px">qunnoq</span></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Aug 26, 2017 15:36, "mayqel qunenoS" <<a href="mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com">mihkoun@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">SuStel:</span><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px"><br></span></div><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">> A </span><b style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">vumwI'</b><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px"> is someone who does </span><b style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">vum.</b><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px"> But a verb with -> </span><b style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">lu'</b><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px"> has </span><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">no subject, so there is nothing for </span><b style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">-wI'</b><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px"> to turn the verb </span><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">> into.</span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">So, this means that {vumlu'wI'} is grammatically correct, but as far as it's meaning is concerned, it actually makes no sense because "due to the {-lu'}, there is no subject who will be doing the {vum} ?"</span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">qunnoq</span></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Aug 26, 2017 14:57, "SuStel" <<a href="mailto:sustel@trimboli.name" target="_blank">sustel@trimboli.name</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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we place the {-wI'} on a verb, we produce the meaning "one who
does/is, thing which does/is".
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<div dir="auto">So, if we write {vumwI'} then we have the meaning
of "one who works".</div>
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<div dir="auto">But if we wrote instead {vumlu'wI'}, then we would
seemingly/apparently get the meaning "someone (unspecified) who
works".</div>
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<div dir="auto">So, the conclusion here is that "the {-wI'} used
on its own, talks of someone specified, while the use of it in
conjunction with {-lu'} talks of someone unspecified" ?</div>
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<p><b>-wI'</b> doesn't mean someone specified does something; it
turns the verb into its own subject. A <b>vumwI'</b> is someone
who does <b>vum.</b> But a verb with <b>-lu'</b> has no subject,
so there is nothing for <b>-wI'</b> to turn the verb into.<br>
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