<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 1:51 AM, Lieven <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:levinius@gmx.de" target="_blank">levinius@gmx.de</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span class="gmail-">Am 11.08.2017 um 04:28 schrieb nIqolay Q:<br>
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One of the major differences between Discovery and Klingon Hamlet is that Discovery is going to be Actual Star Trek Canon.<br>
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There's the point: it's "Star Trek" canon, but still not pour Okrandian canon. Remember all the gibberish we'se seen on Deep Space nine? That certainly is canon, but wo don't even understand a word from it.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div style="transition: transform 1s ease 0s;">The argument I'm making is that the reason we don't understand the gibberish from DS9 and elsewhere is<i> </i>because it is supposed to be considered canonically <b>no' Hol</b>, even the stuff that (coincidentally, I'm sure) sounds like someone doing a bad phonetic reading of modern Klingon words. The section on <b>no' Hol</b> (KGT p. 11-14) is written as if it's trying
to reassure the reader that even if a Klingon says something that
sounds like gibberish, it's actually perfectly acceptible as a
contemporary use of ancient language. Okrand doesn't mention many examples of TV show gibberish specifically (though <b style="transition: transform 1s ease 0s;">mova' 'aqI' ruStaq</b> (KGT p. 13) is a line from "Looking For Par'Mach in All The Wrong Places" (DS9)), but it seems clear to me in retrospect that the digression on <b>no' Hol<i> </i></b>was intended as a way to include all the TV gibberish in the canonical linguistic history without having to really make sense of it. Which is why I said earlier that all the stuff we've seen on TV and film has been incorporated into canonical Klingon, even if just as a more ancient form of the language.<br></div><div><br><br></div><div><br><i><br></i> <br></div></div></div></div>