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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">SuStel wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]>Your point 2 answers your point 1. <b>tlhIngan woch puS tera'ngan woch rap</b> means<br>
<i>the Klingon is as tall as the Terran, and that's a bad thing.</i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Disparagement is
</span><span class="tgc">the act of speaking about someone in a negative or belittling way</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Iagine a different sentence (said with a sneer):<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> tlhInganvam woch puS verengan woch rap<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"> This Klingon is as tall as a Ferengi!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">--Voragh<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> tlhIngan-Hol [mailto:tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>mayqel qunenoS<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 4, 2017 9:57 AM<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">SuStel:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">> <span style="font-size:9.5pt;color:#500050">connotes negative quality</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;color:#500050">> (connotes disparagement, seldom used)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">What is the difference between "<span style="font-size:9.5pt">connotes negative quality" and "<span style="color:#500050">connotes disparagement" ? I googled disparagement, (because I didn't know its meaning), and I got the synonyms of
"devaluation, debasement, derogation".</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;color:#500050">The way I understand the </span>"<span style="font-size:9.5pt">connotes negative quality" and "<span style="color:#500050">connotes disparagement", with regards to the matter we are discussing
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;color:#500050">If I want to say that the qagh is as dead as a stone (which is a negative quality) then I use {A Q <b>puS</b> B Q <b>puS}. </b>But if I want to say that the forehead of someone's mother is smooth
as a peach, and I want the phrase to have the maximum insulting effect, then I will use {A Q <b>puS</b> B Q <b>rap}. </b>And maybe, in the qagh example, if I want to insult the chef who ccoked it, I will use again {A Q <b>puS</b> B Q <b>rap} </b>instead of
the {A Q <b>puS</b> B Q <b>puS</b>}<b>. </b>Or is it that the "disparagement" concerns only the occupant of slot A, and not those in direct relation to him as well ?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;color:#500050">Am I right ?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;color:#500050">SuStel:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;color:#500050">> </span><span style="font-size:9.5pt">If the positive antonym is used in place of <b>law'</b> and the negative in place of <b>puS,</b> you get the same </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">> meaning as the standard <b>law'/puS.</b> If the order is reversed, you get <i>A is less Q than B.</i> The reversed </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">> version is seldom used. Okrand does not give any examples of doing this with <b>Hoch</b> in the B slot, but </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">> he says it can be done.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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