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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/5/2017 4:19 PM, mayqel qunenoS
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">SuStel:
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style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">>
jIHDaq ve'<br>
</b><i style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">>
he travels on me</i></div>
<div dir="auto"><span
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">> He's
riding on my back, or something like that. The </span></div>
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style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">>
destination is unstated. You can tell that </span><b
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">jIHDaq</b><span
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px"> is not
the </span></div>
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style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">>
object of </span><b
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">ve'</b><span
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">because
the verb prefix agrees </span></div>
<div dir="auto"><span
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">> with </span><i
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">he/she/it/they/none.</i></div>
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style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px"><br>
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<div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif">I fail to
see how the {jIHDaq ve'} produces the "he travels on me". </span><i
style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px"><br>
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<div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif">According
to the canon (or so I think) example of {bIQtIqDaq jIjaH}
for "I go in the river/I am moving along the river" (HQ 7.4,
Dec 1998), whenever we have the {-Daq} with a verb of
movement, which verb of movement has a verb prefix
indicating no object, then the {-Daq} indicates the location
where the going takes place.</span></div>
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<div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif">So, as I
understand the example of {jIHDaq ve'} the meaning isn't "he
travels (with a purpose) on me"; it is rather "he is
traveling with a purpose in the vicinity of me".</span></div>
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<p>If you're riding me, then I am the location where the traveling
takes place.</p>
<p>But you're right; it could also mean the traveling takes place on
my body. Maybe a Lilliputian is walking from my head to my feet
for an important reason. <b>jIHDaq ve'.</b></p>
<p>But the locative doesn't necessarily say that I am traversed,
only that I am a location associated with the action. I don't
think Okrand was trying to distinguish between those two in that
HolQeD interview.<br>
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