<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><br><br>On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 10:44 AM, SuStel <<a href="mailto:sustel@trimboli.name">sustel@trimboli.name</a>> wrote:<br>> On 6/8/2017 12:02 AM, nIqolay Q wrote:<br>><br>> I have attempted a translation of another classical poem. This time, it's<br>> "The Second Coming", by William Butler Yeats. The version of the poem I used<br>> can be found here:<br>> <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems-and-poets/poems/detail/43290">https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems-and-poets/poems/detail/43290</a><br>><br>> cha'DIch ghoS [1]<br>> [1] I'm basing this on the controversial canon from the SkyBox card where<br>> {wa'DIch} was used as an adverbial for "the first time". I wanted to keep<br>> the idea of "second" in the translation, because of the religious<br>> connotations of the "second coming", so I didn't use {ghoSqa'}. I didn't use<br>> something like {ghoSpu'ghach cha'DIch} since I wanted to avoid {-ghach} as<br>> much as possible (though I still ended up using it elsewhere). {cha'logh<br>> ghoS} suggests both comings, not just the second one. So I'm rolling the<br>> dice on the adverbial {-DIch}.<br>><br>><br>> I don't remember the SkyBox card that uses an ordinal as an adverbial. Which<br>> one is it?<br><br>S15: <a href="http://klingonska.org/canon/sbx-s13.html">http://klingonska.org/canon/sbx-s13.html</a> The first sentence is: <br>{wa’DIch tlhIngan Dujmey luleghlu’pu’bogh rur qItI’nga’ Duj.}<br></div>translated as<br>"<i class="gmail-translation">Similar in configuration to the first Klingon vessels encountered, the
K’Tinga-Class..."</i></div><div><i class="gmail-translation"><br></i></div><span class="gmail-translation">I remember seeing this being used as tentative evidence for use of {wa'DIch} as an adverbial... though now that I look at it, it might just be a misplaced word.<br><br></span></div><span class="gmail-translation">You do raise some good points here, and I think I'll edit my translation to use {</span>pawpu'ghach cha'DIch} or the like (and then reply to some of the other points) when I get home.<br><div><div><div><br><br></div></div></div></div>