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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-family:Courier">Looking through my notes I find:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">(ghunchu'wI', 7/26/2010):<span style="font-family:Courier">
</span>A cadre of grammarians had the opportunity to preview a section of a Klingon opera [at
<b>qep'a' 17</b>] . . . We also saw an apparently adverbial {<b>wa'DIch}</b>, confirming that the {<b>wa'DIch jagh'e' wIHeghmoHmo'}</b> line in {<b>taHjaj wo'}</b> is appropriate usage.<br>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> wa'DIch Hegh moratlh<br>
wej SuvwI' SuvtaHvIS<br>
mongDaj DuQlu' 'ej Hegh<br>
ghIq Hegh qanjIt<br>
qeylIS retlhDaq Suv<br>
wa' jagh HoHta' HeghtaHvIS<br>
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First, Morath fell …<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoPlainText"> [remainder of translation wanting (PB p148f.)]<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">and the sequence:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText"> wa'DIch nach 'ay' <br>
cha'DIch ghIv 'ay'<br>
wejDIch burgh 'ay'<br>
loSDIch bIng 'ay'<br>
vaghDIch Dung 'ay'<br>
tagha' tIq Hoch botlh<br>
Hochlogh Dat joqtaHjaj <br>
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[translation wanting (PB)]<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#44546A">--Voragh<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">On Behalf Of
</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">nIqolay Q<br>
</span>On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 10:44 AM, SuStel <<a href="mailto:sustel@trimboli.name">sustel@trimboli.name</a>> wrote:<br>
> On 6/8/2017 12:02 AM, nIqolay Q wrote:<br>
><br>
> I have attempted a translation of another classical poem. This time, it's<br>
> "The Second Coming", by William Butler Yeats. The version of the poem I used<br>
> can be found here:<br>
> <a href="https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems-and-poets/poems/detail/43290">https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems-and-poets/poems/detail/43290</a><br>
><br>
> cha'DIch ghoS [1]<br>
> [1] I'm basing this on the controversial canon from the SkyBox card where<br>
> {wa'DIch} was used as an adverbial for "the first time". I wanted to keep<br>
> the idea of "second" in the translation, because of the religious<br>
> connotations of the "second coming", so I didn't use {ghoSqa'}. I didn't use<br>
> something like {ghoSpu'ghach cha'DIch} since I wanted to avoid {-ghach} as<br>
> much as possible (though I still ended up using it elsewhere). {cha'logh<br>
> ghoS} suggests both comings, not just the second one. So I'm rolling the<br>
> dice on the adverbial {-DIch}.<br>
><br>
><br>
> I don't remember the SkyBox card that uses an ordinal as an adverbial. Which<br>
> one is it?<br>
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S15: <a href="http://klingonska.org/canon/sbx-s13.html">http://klingonska.org/canon/sbx-s13.html</a> The first sentence is:
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{wa’DIch tlhIngan Dujmey luleghlu’pu’bogh rur qItI’nga’ Duj.}<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">translated as<br>
"<i>Similar in configuration to the first Klingon vessels encountered, the K’Tinga-Class..."</i><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span class="gmail-translation">I remember seeing this being used as tentative evidence for use of {wa'DIch} as an adverbial... though now that I look at it, it might just be a misplaced word.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="gmail-translation">You do raise some good points here, and I think I'll edit my translation to use {</span>pawpu'ghach cha'DIch} or the like (and then reply to some of the other points) when I get home.<o:p></o:p></p>
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