<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Thanks for the suggestion!</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I was a bit hesitant about -ghach because I remember a discussion about it being a bit tricky to use for a beginner, or possibly "bad Klingon".</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">But, I guess then if it's ok to use it it could be:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default"><font face="times new roman, serif">vuttaHghach vIparHa'</font></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">(by the way, I don't need to use any prefix in a nominalized verb, right?)</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Thanks again!</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">~mughwI'</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2017-02-12 23:08 GMT+01:00 MorphemeAddict <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lytlesw@gmail.com" target="_blank">lytlesw@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:courier new,monospace">How about using a noun derived from a verb (by adding -ghach, e.g.) as the object? It involves deciding which other suffix(es) to use so that it doesn't sound odd. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:courier new,monospace"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:courier new,monospace">lay'tel SIvten</div></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 7:25 PM, Lieven <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:levinius@gmx.de" target="_blank">levinius@gmx.de</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Okay, since others have broken the KLBC-barrier already, and our current BG may be at shore leave, I'll answer this:<span><br>
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Am 09.02.2017 um 13:31 schrieb Aurélie Demonchaux:<br>
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We have some examples of <par> and <parHa'> being used with nouns or<br>
pronouns but I can't find any canon source where they apply to verbs.<br>
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Do you use {'e'} or nothing in those cases?<br>
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I will not go into alternatives like {tIv} "enjoy", but simple answer<br>
the question grammatically:<br>
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The verb {neH} is the only exception for omitting {'e'}. This means that it is correct to say<br>
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{jIvut 'e' vIparHa'} "I like that I cook."<br>
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Yes, indeed you may think that this literally means "I do like the fact that I am cooking at this moment", but there is no "special" construction to express the common feeling of "I like surfing in general". It's the English that's strange, not the Klingon.<span class="m_-7000954861079759648HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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