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<p>I intentionally avoided that translation because it obscures
the answer to the question. English "will have been opened" can
mean it will be opened a year from now or ninety-nine years from
now. The Klingon means it's opened one hundred years from now
and that the opening is completed.</p>
<p>Compare the canonical sentence, <b>wa'maH loS ben jIboghpu'</b><i>
I was born forty years ago.</i> It doesn't mean that as of
forty years ago I was already born; it means that forty years
ago my birth took place and was completed.</p>
<p>The perfect tense ("occurs prior to the time context") is not
the same as the perfective aspect ("comes to completion").
Okrand HAS used a perfective suffix to indicate perfect tense,
but it's defined, and usually works in canon, as perfective
aspect. His English translations don't always elucidate the
difference.<br>
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On 2/1/2017 11:15 AM, Steven Boozer wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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way to translate the future perfect would be “will have been
opened”.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 1/31/2017 6:19 PM, Brian Cote wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="color:#44546A">
</span></i></b><span style="color:#44546A"> </span>So,
my question <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">is: can you use {leghpu'} if the
event it's referring to (the event <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">that brings the hypothetical into the
historical) will happen far, <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">far in the future? <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">SuStel wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>If I understand what you're saying, then yes. <b>wa'vatlh
nem 'aplo' poSmoHlu'</b><i> the container will be opened
in one hundred years;</i><b> wa'vatlh nem 'aplo'
poSmoHlu'pu'</b><i> the container is opened in one hundred
years.</i> The latter refers to a completed action; the
former is explicitly not a completed action.</p>
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