<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body><div><nej> already means "look for" and the "for" of <-vaD> doesn't fit looking for something , since it implies a benefactor, "for the sake of", and not the target of <nej>.</div><div><br></div><div>ter'eS</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div id="composer_signature"><div style="font-size:85%;color:#575757" dir="auto">Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone</div></div><div><br></div><div style="font-size:100%;color:#000000"><!-- originalMessage --><div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Brian Cote <wearetheinformation00@gmail.com> </div><div>Date: 1/16/17 12:34 PM (GMT-06:00) </div><div>To: tlhingan-hol@kli.org </div><div>Subject: Re: [tlhIngan Hol] <<poSayDon>> vImughlI' </div><div><br></div></div>To answer the remainder of your original question, I pulled {paqvaD qanejmoH} off of the "klingon_grammar" page on the Wikipedia. However there was no citation given for where the example of this particular construction came from. <div><br></div><div>QImSIr<br><br>On Sunday, January 15, 2017, SuStel <<a href="mailto:sustel@trimboli.name">sustel@trimboli.name</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>On 1/15/2017 9:34 PM, Brian Cote wrote:<br>
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<div>ej vaj ghaH QeHqu'moH qechna'vam 'ej bI'reS Qu'DajvaD </div>
<div>ghaH parqu'moH.</div>
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<div>Disregarding your suggestions for recasting these sentences </div>
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<div>{bI'reS} - I was intending to use it as a time stamp, as in</div>
<div> the {paq'batlh}, however, I'm thinking {wa'DIch} might have </div>
<div>been more appropriate here.</div>
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<p><b>wa'DIch</b> would have been better. A <b>bI'reS</b> is the
beginning of some artistic performance, not a job.<br>
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<div>{Qu'DajvaD ghaH parqu'moH} - I'll explain my thinking here.</div>
<div> I was intending to write /(this idea specifically) caused
him to </div>
<div>really dislike his duty/. I based this on the example of</div>
<div> {paqvaD qanejmoH}, but as I'm currently writing this,</div>
<div> I'm realizing that this probably falls under the category
of </div>
<div>the "prefix trick", correct? I was thinking that {ghaH} would
be</div>
<div> the explicit direct object and {Qu'Daj} would be the
explicit</div>
<div> indirect object. This obviously didn't work, correct?</div>
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<p>Does <b>paqvaD qanejmoH</b> appear in <i>paq'batlh</i>? I have
only about two-thirds of it typed in and searchable, and what I
have already done doesn't contain that phrase.</p>
<p>Our first example of how to do this was on a SkyBox card, where
the phrase was <b>ghaHvaD quHDaq qawmoH</b><i> it causes him to
remember his heritage.</i> Following this pattern, your desired
sentence would be <b>ghaHvaD Qu'Daj parqu'moH</b><i> it causes
him to really dislike his task.</i><br>
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