<div dir="auto">bImuj. DIvI Hol vIlo'bogh 'oH DIvI Hol qaqchu''e'; not 'e' vImeq. vaj, vay' vIpon 'e' vInIDbe'.<div dir="auto">you're wrong. I never said that my english is the best, or the most preferable. so, I am not trying to convince anyone, about my english writing style.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">now, as far as klingon is concerned, there is no way you can convince me that the lack of question marks makes things difficult.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">how long do you study klingon ? 20-30 years ? I have been doing this for 14 months, and the lack of question marks doesn't confuse me. So, I find hard to believe that it is confusing to you, or others of your level.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">furthermore, as I have said before, you can't execute someone on the spot the moment he strays from canon, while at the same time condemn something which he does, although that something stems from it.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">if you accept paq'batlh as valid, then you can't say to someone "use punctuation !". because if you do, you will be contradicting your own self.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">'ej mayajchuqlaHba'be'mo' 'ej maQochbe'choH ghItlhmeH Degh vIbuSHa'choHchu' 'op lup ret QIn ghomDaq jIjatlhta' ghelmeH Degh vIlo'qang 'a DaH jaS jIwuq 'ej Hoch Deghmey vIlon</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">and because we are obviously unable to understand each other and agree, from now on I will stop using any all kinds of punctuation. earlier I wrote that I was willing to use question marks; now I changed my mind.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">'ej canon 'oHmo' ghItlhmeH mIwvam'e', vIlo' vIneHchugh vaj DIbwIj 'oHbej.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">and because this way of writing is canon, it is my write to use it.</div><div dir="auto"><br><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto">qunnoH jan puqloD<br>ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'<br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 31 Dec 2016 6:53 pm, "SuStel" <<a href="mailto:sustel@trimboli.name" target="_blank">sustel@trimboli.name</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div class="m_-688111684520200331moz-cite-prefix">On 12/31/2016 11:21 AM, mayqel qunenoS
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<blockquote type="cite">however, there is a major difference between the
{-'a'} and punctuation in general.
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<div dir="auto">if you are reading a sentence which contains a
verb bearing the {-'a'}, or a sentence starting with any
question word, there is no way you can't realize instantly that
it is a question.</div>
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<div dir="auto">but if you are trying to read a passage with no
commas and periods, then good luck, especially in klingon.</div>
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<div dir="auto">one of the reasons I refuse to read paq'batlh is
exactly this lack of punctuation. the problem isn't the lack of
question marks; its having to be a psychic in order to
understand where everything starts and stops.</div>
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<div dir="auto">whenever voragh quotes the paq'batlh, and I am
trying to read just a few sentences, I feel like smashing my
phone against the wall.</div>
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<div dir="auto">I can't help but hear myself saying "how the f***
am I supposed to understand this" ?</div>
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<p>"There is a major difference"<br>
"Is there a major difference"</p>
<p>In English, there is a major difference between the same sentence
in indicative and interrogative moods, as I have just illustrated.
You can tell which is a statement and which is a question. So why
do we have the question mark? Why do some languages use the
question mark twice, once at the beginning and once at the end?<br>
</p>
<p>So basically, we're asking why you won't follow the conventions
of punctuation that society has agreed upon for a long time. I
find your English-language text more difficult to read than
someone else's, because you don't capitalize so it's hard to find
the beginnings of sentences; you put spaces before your
end-of-sentence punctuation which makes it hard to find the ends
of sentences; you don't use apostrophes consistently so it's hard
to tell the difference between <i>its</i> and <i>it's.<br>
</i></p>
<p>I've seen worse on the Internet:</p>
<p>I once knew someone<br>
who put line breaks<br>
throughout his words<br>
like this<br>
because<br>
he thought<br>
it made things easier<br>
to read.<br>
Everyone yelled at him<br>
and told him<br>
it was actually harder to read<br>
written this way.<br>
He didn't believe them<br>
and kept on doing it<br>
because he was convinced<br>
his way was better<br>
than what they had learned.<br>
Whether or not<br>
it was better<br>
nobody else<br>
could read it easily<br>
because they hadn't been taught<br>
to read<br>
like this.</p>
<p>OR WHY DON'T WE STICK TO ONE TYPEFACE? WHY DO WE MIX MAJUSCULES
AND MINUSCULES WHEN ONE SIZE OF LETTERS WILL DO? it's because over
the centuries we have found minuscule lettering is easier to read
in large blocks, but majuscule lettering works better for
emphasis, and emphasizing certain words in sentences by
capitalizing them.</p>
<p>I don't know the reason they chose to present <i>paq'batlh</i>
without punctuation. It probably has something to do with trying
to recreate a spoken song rather than a prose text; you don't
usually speak punctuation unless you're Victor Borge.<br>
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