<div dir="auto">bIlugh lieven ! 'a yabwIj lutlhoDmoH ghantoH paqmey.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Huj, jISov.. 'a yajmeH laHwIj, luSabmoH ghantoH mu'tlheghmey. wanI'vam vIQIjlaHbe', 'a teH.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">ghantoH paq vIlaDvIp.. jIqIDbe'. meqvammo', ghantoH mu'tlhegh vIjun.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">SKI: you are definitely right lieven ! however -as strange as this may sound-, canon books confuse me and cripple my ability to understand. because of this reason, I am afraid to systematically read canon.</div><div dir="auto"><br><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto">qunnoH jan puqloD<br>ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'<br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 31 Dec 2016 10:40 am, "Lieven" <<a href="mailto:levinius@gmx.de">levinius@gmx.de</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Am 30.12.2016 um 12:52 schrieb mayqel qunenoS:<br>
> and how do we say "win a war/battle" and "lose a war/battle" ?<br>
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Am 30.12.2016 um 13:26 schrieb De'vID:<br>
> "Destroying an empire to win a war is no victory, and ending a battle to save an empire is no defeat." -- TKW p.211<br>
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Am 30.12.2016 um 13:38 schrieb mayqel qunenoS:<br>
> also, are the {noH Suv} and {noH ghob} acceptable,<br>
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Am 30.12.2016 um 14:11 schrieb De'vID:<br>
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KGT p.47:<br>
<Thus, it is possible to say {noH ghob} or {noH Suv}, both meaning<br>
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cha'logh tlhIngan Hol paqmey DalaDnISba', qunnoq, qar'a'? ;-)<br>
HIHoHQo', jIqID neH. 'ach rapbe' pab Sov. ghantoH paqmey luSovnISlu'chu' je. tIlaD, ghIq tIlaDqa'.<br>
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