<div dir="auto">DevID:<div dir="auto">> <span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">{noH QapmeH wo' Qaw'lu'chugh yay chavbe'lu' 'ej wo' </span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.696px">> choqmeH may' DoHlu'chugh lujbe'lu'.}</span></div><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:13.696px"><br></span></font></div><div dir="auto">the {noH QapmeH} is indeed pretty straightforward for "to win a war", but does the {lujbe'lu'} mean that we can say {noH lujlu'} for {someone lost the war} ?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">also, are the {noH Suv} and {noH ghob} acceptable, for "to fight a war" ?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">qunnoH jan puqloD<div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto">ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'<br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 30 Dec 2016 2:26 pm, "De'vID" <<a href="mailto:de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com">de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra" dir="auto"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Dec 30, 2016 12:52, "mayqel qunenoS" <<a href="mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com" target="_blank">mihkoun@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="m_-3754657154086163352quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">recently, we said that we can write {may' Suv} and {may' ghob} for "to fight a battle".<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">two questions:</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">if we want to say "fight a war", are the {noH Suv} and {noH ghob} acceptable ?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">and how do we say "win a war/battle" and "lose a war/battle" ?</div><div dir="auto"></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto">{noH QapmeH wo' Qaw'lu'chugh yay chavbe'lu' 'ej wo' choqmeH may' DoHlu'chugh lujbe'lu'.}</div><div dir="auto">"Destroying an empire to win a war is no victory, and ending a battle to save an empire is no defeat." -- TKW p.211</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">-- </div><div dir="auto">De'vID</div></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra" dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="m_-3754657154086163352quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><br><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto"><br></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div>
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