<div dir="auto">SuStel:<div dir="auto">> like a single fight during a period of three </div><div dir="auto">> years</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I guess this means something like:</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">{qaStaHvIS wej DIS wa' may' neH wIyIn}</div><div dir="auto">we only had one battle during three years</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">right ?</div><div dir="auto"><br><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto">qunnoH jan puqloD<br>ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'<br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 27 Dec 2016 7:51 pm, "SuStel" <<a href="mailto:sustel@trimboli.name">sustel@trimboli.name</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div class="m_-3560092767083586418moz-cite-prefix">On 12/27/2016 12:06 PM, mayqel qunenoS
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<blockquote type="cite">for quite some time now, I am wondering as to the
extent one must use the {qaStaHvIS}.
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<div dir="auto">my understanding is, that if we are talking about
an event which takes place once, there is no need for
{qaStaHvIS}.</div>
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<div dir="auto">example:</div>
<div dir="auto">DaSjaj matlheD</div>
<div dir="auto">(on) monday we depart</div>
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<div dir="auto">on the other hand, if we talk of an event that
lasts quite some time, then the qaStaHvIS is (seemingly)
required.</div>
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<div dir="auto">example:</div>
<div dir="auto">qaStaHvIS DaSjaj jIvum</div>
<div dir="auto">while monday is happening I work</div>
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<div dir="auto">so, here is my first question: in the
aforementioned example {<span style="font-family:sans-serif">qaStaHvIS
DaSjaj jIvum}, is the {qaStaHvIS} necessary ? can't I just
write {DaSjaj jIvum} ?</span></div>
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</div><p>Yes, you can just write <b>DaSjaj jIvum</b><i> I work on Monday.</i>
You're not telling us about how your work was structured, just
that on Monday, work happened.</p><div class="quoted-text">
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<div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif">maj..</span></div>
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<div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif">moving on, my
next question is "if we are talking of singular events which
take place multiple times, do we use the {qaStaHvIS} ?"</span></div>
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<div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif">example:</font></div>
<div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif">on monday I kill four
birds</font></div>
<div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif">do I write </font></div>
<div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif">{DaSjaj loS bo'Degh vIHoH}</font></div>
<div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif">or do I write</font></div>
<div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif">{qaStaHvIS DaSjaj loS
bo'Degh vIHoH}</font></div>
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</div><p>For simple time expressions, this doesn't make a difference. <b>qaStaHvIS</b>
is much more useful when referring to events, e.g. <b>qaStaHvIS
SoQ jIQongchoH</b><i> I fell asleep during the speech,</i> or
time periods, e.g., <b>qaStaHvIS wej DIS toQDuj baHwI' jIH</b><i><font size="-1"> </font>I was a Bird of Prey gunner for three
years.<br>
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<p>Exactly when a phrase is a time expression or a time period is
difficult for me to articulate. Longer periods get treated like
time periods when the subject is events of short duration (like a
single fight during a period of three years). <b>qaStaHvIS </b>has
a sort of "zooming-in" effect; you are examining a subset of the
entire period and saying that the period was going on before the
point you're looking at and continues on after the point you're
looking at. When you want to zoom in, treat it like a time period
and use <b>qaStaHvIS.</b> When you just want to label when
something happened, and you don't want to zoom into the context of
the moment, use a time expression.<font color="#888888"><br>
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