<p dir="ltr">however, if De'vID's analysis (that the {naDev jIHtaHbogh} is a noun) is correct, then this raises the question:</p>
<p dir="ltr">why at the tkd we have {jIHtaHbogh naDev vISovbe'} instead of {naDev jIHtaHbogh vISovbe'} ?</p>
<p dir="ltr">Unless of course, the rule could be assumed, that in {-bogh}ed locatives, the locative can either follow or precede the {-bogh}.</p>
<p dir="ltr">But whatever the case, this is all speculative thus unable to be accepted and put to practice.</p>
<p dir="ltr">qunnoH jan puqloD<br>
ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'</p>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 18 Dec 2016 3:08 pm, "mayqel qunenoS" <<a href="mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com">mihkoun@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">I agree. Obviously there is grammar here, which we don't yet know. Because of this reason, attempts to analyze sentences like the aforementioned one are futile.</p>
<p dir="ltr">let alone draw conclusions, which we could employ in our daily writing. Obviously this is another {ngIq} case..</p>
<p dir="ltr">qunnoH jan puqloD<br>
ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'</p>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 18 Dec 2016 2:55 pm, "SuStel" <<a href="mailto:sustel@trimboli.name" target="_blank">sustel@trimboli.name</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div class="m_-6940616413592914283m_-3108628246009833230moz-cite-prefix">On 12/18/2016 6:52 AM, mayqel qunenoS
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<blockquote type="cite">When De'vID wrote that the {naDev jIHtaHbogh} is a
noun, I wrote that the only way this can take place is if the
{naDev} is considered to be the object of the {jIHtaHbogh}. But if
that was true, then the translation could only be "the here which
I am being".</blockquote>
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<p>Unless "to be" sentences don't follow the usual rules of having
subjects and objects per se. What, for instance, is the subject of
<b>tlhIngan ghaH</b>? And if it's <b>gha</b><b>H,</b> then what's
the verb? And if there is no verb, then what's the <b>ghaH</b>
doing in <b>tlhIngan ghaH yaS'e'</b>?<br>
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