<div dir="auto"><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra" dir="auto"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Dec 17, 2016 09:24, "mayqel qunenoS" <<a href="mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com">mihkoun@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">De'vID:</p><div class="quoted-text">
> {naDev jIHtaHbogh} is a noun.</div><p></p>
<p dir="ltr">I can't understand how this could be correct as a {-bogh}ed noun.</p>
<p dir="ltr">I know we can say {paq qanobta'bogh} for "the book which I gave you". but here the {paq} is the object of {nob}.</p>
<p dir="ltr">On the {naDev jIHtaHbogh} is the {naDev} an object ? and if yes, the object of what verb ? the object of {jIH} ? I can understand the {jIH} taking an object in the context of {SuvwI' jIH}. but then, the {naDev jIHtaH} would mean "I am here" not in the sense "I am present here", but in the sense "I am the here".</p></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto">The SkyBox {Qo'noS} card has the following sentence: </div><div dir="auto">{<font color="#222222" face="georgia, serif"><span style="font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">pa’ ’oHtaH vaS’a’ ’e’.}</span></font></div><div dir="auto"><font color="#222222" face="georgia, serif"><span style="font-size:16px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">"</span><span style="font-size:16px;text-indent:24px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">This is where the Klingon Great Hall is located"</span></font></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">That no more means "the Great Hall is 'the there'" than {naDev jIHtaH} means "I am 'the here'."</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">The suffix {-taH} indicates an ongoing activity, and "being at a location" is apparently considered a type of ongoing activity. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">See also KGT p.25:</div><div dir="auto">{tera'ngan ghaH qama''e'} "The prisoner is a Terran"</div><div dir="auto">{bIghHa'Daq ghaHtaH qama''e'} "The prisoner is in the prison"</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Even though that sentence has a {-Daq}ed noun, the structure is essentially the same. {bIghHa'Daq ghaHtaH} means "he/she is in prison", and {naDev ghaHtaH} means "he/she is here".</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">-- </div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif">De'vID</span><br></div><div class="gmail_extra" dir="auto"></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra" dir="auto"></div></div>