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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>There’s no right answer; use whichever best expresses your meaning.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>-- <br>SuStel<br>http://trimboli.name</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com">mayqel qunenoS</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Thursday, November 24, 2016 3:03 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:tlhingan-hol@kli.org">tlhIngan Hol mailing list</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Can I use {Hur} on its own ?</p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p>andre muller:<br>> "I went outside."<br>> What verb would you use</p><p>I would say {HurDaq vIjaH} or {Hur vIjaH}.</p><p>I would use the {jaH}, because I think it expresses better the "I went". The way I understand the {ghoS} it expresses the "I approached/followed/went away from" depending on the presence of the suffixes {-Daq} and {-vo'}.</p><p>qunnoH<br>ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'</p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 24 Nov 2016 9:25 pm, "André Müller" <<a href="mailto:esperantist@gmail.com">esperantist@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>That reminds me of a question I had recently but didn't bother to ask.</p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>"I went outside."</p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>What verb would you use? {ghoS} maybe? Or perhaps {mej}? Or maybe even {'el} (there are some natural languages, such as Tsez, where you can "enter the outside", and I like that expression).</p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Of course, I could be more precise and say {juHvo' jImejpu'}, but which verb would you use with {Hur}? Would you guys accept {Hur vI'elpu'}?</p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#888888'>- André</span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>2016-11-24 19:52 GMT+01:00 SuStel <<a href="mailto:sustel@trimboli.name" target="_blank">sustel@trimboli.name</a>>:</p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=MsoNormal>On 11/24/2016 1:38 PM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:</p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=MsoNormal>At another thread I wrote:<br>{toH, juHwIjDaq vIjaHmeH yaHwIj HurDaq vIjaH net poQ}<br><br>Would it be acceptable if I wrote:<br>{toH, juHwIjDaq vIjaHmeH HurDaq vIjaH net poQ}<br><br>So, the question is: Can words as {Hur}, {bIng}, {Dung} etc, be used<br>on their own, or is it necessary for them to refer to another noun, a<br>noun that will precede them ?</p></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><br>Sure, you can use them on their own. Just remember that their concepts are relative to something else, so some context is usually needed. You provide that in your example sentence because you're talking about being at your duty station before you talk about going outside. Outside what? Your duty station is obviously indoors, so you go out. Not a problem.<span style='color:#888888'><br><br><span class=m2066302834503538343hoenzb>-- </span><br><span class=m2066302834503538343hoenzb>SuStel</span><br><span class=m2066302834503538343hoenzb><a href="http://trimboli.name" target="_blank">http://trimboli.name</a></span></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>tlhIngan-Hol mailing list<br><a href="mailto:tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org" target="_blank">tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org" target="_blank">http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org</a></p></div></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>tlhIngan-Hol mailing list<br><a href="mailto:tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org">tlhIngan-Hol@lists.kli.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org" target="_blank">http://lists.kli.org/listinfo.cgi/tlhingan-hol-kli.org</a></p></blockquote></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>