<p dir="ltr">SuStel:<br>
> But what if you're the one upon whom<br>
> conditions have been placed? What if you're a<br>
> third party who is neither imposer or<br>
> imposee?</p>
<p dir="ltr">I would have to read specific examples for each of these two possibilities, in order to specify further how I would proceed.</p>
<p dir="ltr">But if I try to approach these possibilities in general (and if I understand correctly what each of them describes), then:</p>
<p dir="ltr">for the<br>
> if you're the one upon whom<br>
> conditions have been placed?</p>
<p dir="ltr">I would describe the event from the view of him who imposes these conditions, and use the imperative.</p>
<p dir="ltr">and for the<br>
>if you're a third party who is neither imposer or<br>
> imposee?</p>
<p dir="ltr">I would have to see a specific example in order to reply; all I can think of now is describing the event from the imposee point of view by the use of imperative.</p>
<p dir="ltr">do you have in mind specific examples for each one of these two possibilities ?</p>
<p dir="ltr">qunnoH<br>
ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'</p>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 24 Nov 2016 4:52 pm, "SuStel" <<a href="mailto:sustel@trimboli.name">sustel@trimboli.name</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On 11/24/2016 5:57 AM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
What does the "must' express, if not an imperative of sorts ? When I<br>
say "you need to do this", often I mean "you must do this"<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
Yes, that's what I've been trying to say about that.<br>
<br>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
I could write:<br>
<br>
{tlhIngan Hol DaghItlhmeH Hol nov DamughtaHvIS, Hol nov qa'<br>
yIchenqa'moH}. and then, if it is necessary I could add a {'ut}, a<br>
{net poQ} or whatever else (although I think that they rarely would<br>
be).<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
If you're the one imposing something on someone else, yes, you can do this. But what if you're the one upon whom conditions have been placed? What if you're a third party who is neither imposer or imposee?<br>
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