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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/16/2016 2:31 PM, David Holt
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<p>jatlh SuStel:</p>
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<div> > Yes. Kirk doesn't <i>need</i> to fight alone; he is
<i>ordered</i> to fight<br>
> alone. <b>nIteb Suv DevwI' net poQ/ra'/qap/raD/qaSmoH.</b><br>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">I don't see the difference.</pre>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72"><span style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, "Apple Color Emoji", "Segoe UI Emoji", NotoColorEmoji, "Segoe UI Symbol", "Android Emoji", EmojiSymbols; font-size: 16px;">vIleghnIS. = vIlegh net raD</span><p style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0cm 0.6cm; font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif, "Apple Color Emoji", "Segoe UI Emoji", NotoColorEmoji, "Segoe UI Symbol", "Android Emoji", EmojiSymbols; font-size: 16px;"><span class="gmail-lex_GlossEnglish">«I need to see him/her.»</span></p></pre>
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<p><b>vIleghnIS<br>
</b><i>I need to see it<br>
</i>I have a personal requirement to see it, the fulfillment of
which will result in personal benefit. No outside agency has
imposed on me the task of seeing it.<br>
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<p><b>vIlegh net raD<br>
</b><i>I am compelled to see it<br>
</i>Some agency forces me to see it. Whether I derive any benefit
from seeing it is completely irrelevant.</p>
<p><b>vIlegh net poQ<br>
</b><i>I am required to see it<br>
</i>Some agency demands that I see it; I may or may not do so.
Whether I derive any benefit from seeing it is completely
irrelevant.</p>
<p>And so on for all your examples. They are not equal. The English
text chosen is irrelevant, because English <i>need, must,</i> and
<i>have to</i> are often used interchangeably, even though they <i>do</i>
have distinct meanings.</p>
<p>If you see me dancing up and down, you might conclude that <b>puch
vIlo'nIS</b><i> I need to use the toilet.</i> Going to the
bathroom will result in the benefit of not peeing in my pants, but
no one is requiring me to go. If you're my boss and you tell me <b>puch
yIlo' </b><i>use the toilet!</i> I can now truthfully say <b>puch
vIlo' net poQ</b><i> I am required to use the bathroom,</i>
because you are the outside agency making the demand, and it's my
job to do what you say, regardless of the state of or danger to my
pants. I can also continue to say <b>puch vIlo'nIS,</b> because
my own personal need has not disappeared, but it says nothing
about your demand.<br>
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<p>If you, my boss, were to tell me, <b>javmaH tat chu'wI' tIje'</b><i>
buy sixty ion triggers!</i> but I find the buying of ion
triggers a despicable act, I can truthfully say that <b>javmaH
tat chu'wI' vIje' net poQ</b><b> 'ach vIje'nISqu'be'</b><i> I am
required to buy sixty ion triggers</i><i> but I don't </i>need<i>
to buy them. </i>I don't personally have any such need, but I
do have to do it anyway.<br>
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SuStel
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