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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#44546A">If it helps, think of them as emphatic colloquial *<b>phrases</b>* in English:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#44546A">Hochlogh each and every time, every single time<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#44546A">paghlogh not even once, not a single time<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#44546A">BTW if you have a good English-Greek dictionary that provides examples, look up the phrase “each and every”.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#44546A">Voragh<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> tlhIngan-Hol [mailto:tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org]
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">On Behalf Of
</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">mayqel qunenoS<br>
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</span>And to further comment on the emphatic nature of "each/every" time, there is a reason why I feel them to be emphatic by nature.<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p>When you use them, you don't just refer to a group of things/events. You don't just put all these things/events in a big bag, handling them all as a homogenous group.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>By the "each/every" you're referring in particular to every single thing/event of that group, for whatever reason. And I think this is an emphatic approach by its very nature.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>If I say "at this list there is a group of klingonists" it is one thing. But if I say "at this list each one of us is a klingonist", then I believe the latter sentence puts the emphasis on every one here individually.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>qunnoH<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 31 Oct 2016 4:01 pm, "mayqel qunenoS" <<a href="mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com">mihkoun@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>Of course, as lieven pointed out, the difference -in english- between "each time" and "every time" eludes me.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>But the way they *feel* to me in english is the same with the way they feel to me in greek; that is whenever I hear them, I get the "emphasis" feeling.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Because of this reason I feel that the {Hochlogh} actually manages to kill two birds with one stone. Literally it means "each/every time", while simultaneously it gives emphasis to the sentence.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>So, I believe it solves my problem of expressing the "each/every time" meaning.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>qunnoH<br>
ghoghwIj HablI'vo' vIngeHta'<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 31 Oct 2016 3:50 pm, "Steven Boozer" <<a href="mailto:sboozer@uchicago.edu" target="_blank">sboozer@uchicago.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:Courier">{Hochlogh} was introduced in KGT. AFAIK there is only one actual example sentence:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-family:Courier">(KGT 178): Similarly, when {-<b>logh}</b> is attached to {<b>Hoch}</b> (<i>all</i>), the resulting word, {<b>Hochlogh}</b> (<i>all times</i>),
is used in the same way as {<b>reH}</b> (<i>always</i>), as in {<b>Hochlogh no' yIquvmoH}</b> (“<i>All times honor your ancestors”</i>...); compare {<b>reH no' yIquvmoH}</b> ({<i>Always honor your ancestors”</i>).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#44546A">It is similar to another emphatic form {paghlogh} “zero times:<br>
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</span><span style="font-family:Courier">(KGT 178): "When {-<b>logh}</b> is attached to {<b>pagh}</b> (<i>zero</i>), the resulting form, {<b>paghlogh}</b> (<i>zero times</i>) is used as an emphatic alternate for {<b>not}</b> (<i>never</i>), as in {<b>paghlogh
jegh tlhIngan SuvwI'}</b> (“<i>a Klingon warrior surrenders zero times”</i>)... compare {<b>not jegh tlhIngan SuvwI'}</b> (“<i>a Klingon warrior never surrenders”</i>).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#44546A">BTW both of these are considered {mu’mey ru’} “made-up (lit. “temporary”) words”:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="m-1969074961704005948m85831182822588871msoplaintext"><span style="font-family:Courier">KGT 176: Sometimes words or phrases are coined for a specific occasion, intentionally violating grammatical rules in order to have an impact. Usually these are
never heard again, though some gain currency and might as well be classified as slang. Klingon grammarians call such forms {<b>mu'mey ru'}</b> ("temporary words"). Sometimes, {<b>mu'mey ru'}
</b>fill a void--that is, give voice to an idea for which there is no standard (or even slang) expression; sometimes, like slang, they are just more emphatic ways of expressing an idea. A common way to create these constructions is to bend the grammatical rules
somewhat, violating the norm in a way that is so obvious that there is no question that it is being done intentionally. To do this is expressed in Klingon as {<b>pabHa'}
</b>("misfollow [the rules], follow [the rules] wrongly").</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#44546A">Voragh</span><span style="color:#44546A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> tlhIngan-Hol [mailto:<a href="mailto:tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org" target="_blank">tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org</a>]
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</span><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">On Behalf Of
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</span>lieven:<br>
> have you considered {Hochlogh}? it means<br>
> something like "always", but literally says<br>
> "each time" or "all times"<span style="color:#44546A"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><b><i><span style="color:#44546A">qunnoH: </span></i></b><span style="color:#44546A"><br>
</span>And now, I would like to ask voragh on any canon examples, which utilize the {Hochlogh}.<o:p></o:p></p>
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