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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/5/2016 1:03 PM, Aurélie
Demonchaux wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_default"><span lang="EN-US"><font face="arial,
helvetica, sans-serif">So I would
assume that this structure is also valid for any similar
verb that can have 2
objects, like < </font><font face="times new roman,
serif">jatlh </font><font face="arial, helvetica,
sans-serif">> (tell, say)<span></span></font></span>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span
lang="EN-US"><br>
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span
lang="EN-US">Thus,
taking the example “I told you no” (“you” being singular
here):<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span
lang="EN-US"><br>
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span
lang="EN-US">Correct/classical
grammar:<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><font face="times new
roman, serif">SoHvaD <
ghobe’ > vIjatlhta’</font><font face="arial,
helvetica, sans-serif"><span></span></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Here the
verb
prefix is </span><font face="times new roman, serif">vI </font><font
face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">(I--it), agreeing with
the direct object < ghobe’ >.</font><br>
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style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span
lang="EN-US"><br>
</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span
lang="EN-US">Prefix
trick:<span></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><font face="times new
roman, serif">< ghobe’
> qajatlhta’</font><font face="arial, helvetica,
sans-serif"><span></span></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span
lang="EN-US">with the
prefix agreeing with the indirect object “you”.</span></p>
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<p>"Verbs of speech" are a special case. TKD section 6.2.5 tells us
that when using two sentences consisting of a phrase with a verb
of speech and a phrase the speaker is saying, the two sentences
are treated as completely separate and simply put next to each
other, in either order. Thus, <i>what</i> you say is not the
object of the verb of speech.</p>
<p><b>SoHvaD jIjatlhta' <i>ghobe'<br>
ghobe'</i> SoHvaD jIjatlhta'<br>
</b><i>I said to you, "No."</i></p>
<p>Notice that the verb of speech has no object.</p>
<p>You <i>can</i> use the prefix trick with verbs of speech, even
if they have no object:</p>
<p><b>qajatlhta' <i>ghobe'<br>
ghobe'</i> qajatlhta'<br>
</b><i>I said to you, "No."</i><br>
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