<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div dir="ltr">I think that if you were being scientific, you would have to be specific when describing the nitrogen in a liquid state - hence <b>betgham</b> specifically, and not <b>bIrlu'ta'bogh</b> or any of those weird derivations you're used to.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1470431626380_5820">The new word's out. It means something in a scientific sense, which means accuracy and precision. Klingon virtues. Use it.</div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, Sans-Serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial"> On Friday, 5 August 2016, 21:27, David Joslyn <gaerfindel@hotmail.com> wrote:<br></font></div> <blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv0270448352"><style type="text/css">#yiv0270448352 #yiv0270448352 -- P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}#yiv0270448352 </style><div dir="ltr">
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<div>HISla'!!! I meant to write {voQSIp bIr'a'}. (Stupid autocorrect.)</div>
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<div dir="ltr" id="yiv0270448352divRplyFwdMsg"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000" style="font-size:11pt;"><b>From:</b> tlhIngan-Hol <tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org> on behalf of Steven Boozer <sboozer@uchicago.edu><br clear="none">
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [tlhIngan Hol] [Tlhingan-hol] Liquid Nitrogen</font>
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<span style="font-size:11.0pt;">*{bIp’a’}? Have I missed a post?
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<b><span style="font-family:Courier;">{bIp}</span></b><span style="font-family:Courier;"> hundred thousand (<i>number morpheme</i>)
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<b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;"> tlhIngan-Hol [mailto:tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org]
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 05, 2016 2:29 PM<br clear="none">
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<div style="background:white;"><span style="">I realize it doesn't make use of the cool new vocab, but what's wrong with using {voQSIp bIp'a'}?</span></div>
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on behalf of Rhona Fenwick <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:qeslagh@hotmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:qeslagh@hotmail.com" style="color:rgb(5, 99, 193);text-decoration:underline;">qeslagh@hotmail.com</a>><br clear="none">
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<div style="background:white;"><span style="">wa' DoS wIqIp SuStel jIH je. The genitive is not restricted to possession or ownership.</span></div>
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<div style="background:white;"><span style="">My first instinct with "liquid nitrogen" is to render it as {voQSIp betgham} "nitrogen liquid", following the general TKD rendition as "N2 of the N1" (p.31): that is, "liquid
of [the] nitrogen". Similarly things like {no'negh SIp} "sulphur gas", {ngIDvoS betgham} "molten lead" (though naturally {ngIDvoS tetlu'pu'bogh} is more literal). Perhaps I'm being influenced by English, where "water ice" is used to speak of frozen water as
opposed to frozen methane, carbon dioxide, or so forth, particularly in reports of planetary exploration and such. But {bIQ chuch} feels natural to me for this meaning in Klingon too, and certainly {chuch bIQ} feels entirely wrong.</span></div>
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<div style="background:white;"><span style="">QeS 'utlh</span></div>
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