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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/5/2016 10:56 AM, qurgh lungqIj
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 9:52 AM, Rhona
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<p><span style="font-size:12pt">Perhaps I'm being
influenced by English, where "water ice" is used
to speak of frozen water as opposed to frozen
methane, carbon dioxide, or so forth, particularly
in reports of planetary exploration and such. But
{bIQ chuch} feels natural to me for this meaning
</span><span style="font-size:12pt">in Klingon too</span><span
style="font-size:12pt">, and certainly {chuch bIQ}
feels entirely wrong.</span></p>
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<div>Saying {bIQ chuch} for "water ice" seems very redundant
to me (the English does too) as "ice" is the name for the
solid form of "water". I don't think this slang should be
carried over into Klingon. </div>
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<div>To talk about the solid state of other types of matter
we should use {lep}. We have words for all the states now:</div>
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<div>Plasma - lI'choD<br>
Gas - SIp</div>
<div>Liquid - betgham</div>
<div>Solid - lep</div>
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<p>Outside of everyday usage, English uses <i>ice</i> to refer to
any substance that is normally thought of as non-solid when it has
been made solid. We use <i>ice</i> instead of some other word
because water is the most common substance that we regularly see
become solid; we just apply that word to other substances.<br>
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<p>On the other hand, we have no idea whether Klingon <b>chuch</b>
has the same usage or can only refer to solid H<sub>2</sub>O.<br>
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