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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/28/2016 3:01 PM, Alan Anderson
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<pre wrap="">On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 11:48 AM, SuStel <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:sustel@trimboli.name"><sustel@trimboli.name></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">If I wanted to say I cause the Klingon to please himself, that could be tlhIngan vIbel'eghmoH jIH.
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I'm unable to parse that in a way that makes sense. It seems to be
missing something, but I can't quite figure out what. The more I look
at it, the less I understand it.
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<pre wrap="">I am doing something. Something is being done to the Klingon. Subject and object. The -'egh tells me that the performer of bel (and not the subject, as TKD says) pleases himself; the -moH tells me that the subject of the sentence causes the action to happen.
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{bel} is "be pleased", so {bel'egh} is weird. It would have to be
{bel'eghmoH} to become "make himself pleased" or "please
himself"...but then there's no way to add another subject causing the
action without using an additional verb.
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<p>You're right, that example doesn't work. I think I was slipping
into thinking <b>bel</b> was <i>please.</i><br>
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SuStel
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