<div dir="ltr">No, I would not speak of mowing someone's hair, but I would certainly speak of trimming the lawn. <<chIp>> is glossed as "cut, trim (hair)". When hair is cut or trimmed, it is shortened for aesthetic effect. I don't know that Klingons have the notion of mowing lawns at all, and "Giving the grass a haircut" is certainly much more descriptive of what is happening than "Cutting the grass" would be to people who have no tradition of mown lawns. In addition, I think that your evidence supports my point: we have no evidence that Klingons have lawns, and some evidence that they don't. Therefore, it seems less likely that they would have a specific word for "mow" and if they did it might refer specifically to the harvesting of grain grasses rather than lawn maintenance. I will continue with magh chIpwI' as the much more evocative phrase.<div><br></div><div>be''etlh</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 1:17 PM, SuStel <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sustel@trimboli.name" target="_blank">sustel@trimboli.name</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal">You wouldn’t seriously speak of “mowing”
someone’s hair, and you wouldn’t seriously speak of <b>chIp</b>-ping
the <b>magh</b> or <b>magh yotlh.</b> We don’t know if
Klingons have a separate word for <i>mow,</i> and in that
absence the only correct choice is <b>pe’</b><i>cut.</i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u><u></u>As for Klingon lawn maintenance,
I’m not so ready to compare my own motivations to those of
Klingons. Whenever we see Klingon residences it seems to be in
cities or on mountains. They seem to prefer stone and metal over
foliage. A Klingon guide in <i>Conversational Klingon</i> found
a power station to be beautiful, even though it smelled and
stung the Terran’s eyes.</p>
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<div dir="ltr">I will come down strongly on the side of
<<magh chIpwI'>> because the maintenance trimming
we do to lawns is definitely more clearly conveyed by
<<chIp>> and I think that "grass cutter" makes sense
in any language, even if, like English, it is not the preferred
word, whereas "Lawn cutter" might not make sense if it was not
preferred. Furthermore, I doubt there is a specific set phrase
for it in Klingon, because lawn maintenance seems like a useless
waste of time to me; it must me much moreso to a Klingon.
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<blockquote type="cite"><font color="#000000"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Lawn
mowers are also called grass cutters...</span></font></blockquote>
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Very true, and the most common variant likely varies
quite unpredictably from language to language.</div>
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<div>In Swedish we only say "grass cutter"
(gräsklippare), and saying "lawn mower"
(gräsmattsklippare) would sound really weird.</div>
<div>However, both Danish and Norwegian (both Bokmål and
Nynorsk) apparently use both "grass cutter"
(gressklippar, grasklippar, græsslåmaskine) and "lawn
cutter" (plenklippar, plenklipper, plæneklipper).</div>
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<div>Considering the fact that not even the Scandinavian
languages an make up their mind, I doubt we'll be able
to deduce the preferred Klingon construction sand
word-of-God/Maltz. However, both «magh pe'wI'» and
«magh yotlh pe'wI'» should get the idea across to any
Terran Klingon-speakers (or at least those comfortable
with English, which is the vast majority).</div>
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<div>I personally kind of like «magh chIpwI'», but
perhaps that's for more detailed sculpting.</div>
<div>...or treacherous barbers.</div>
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26 juli 2016 kl. 16:14 skrev SuStel <<a href="mailto:sustel@trimboli.name" target="_blank">sustel@trimboli.name</a>>:<br>
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grass cutters...</blockquote>
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