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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/14/2016 11:29 AM, De'vID wrote:<br>
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On 14 July 2016 at 15:11, SuStel <</span><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:sustel@trimboli.name"
target="_blank">sustel@trimboli.name</a><span>> wrote:</span><br>
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> On 7/14/2016 4:27 AM, De'vID wrote:</span><br>
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> The proverb {QamvIS Hegh qaq law' torvIS yIn qaq puS}
suggests the</span><br>
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> formula may be somewhat more flexible when it comes to what
a "noun</span><br>
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> phrase" is, though. A and B can't be verbs or sentences,
but it seems</span><br>
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> that {V1-taHvIS N1 Q law' V2-taHvIS N2 Q puS} is an
acceptable form.</span><br>
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> The commentary in TKW only says that {-taH} is missing in
the proverb.</span><br>
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> Given the aberrant grammar, the warning that "in proverbs,
however,</span><br>
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> grammatical shortcuts are not uncommon,"</span><br>
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Just before that, it says "The grammatical construction is a bit
aberrant". The way it's written, it suggests that the only
problem is the missing {-taH}.</span><br>
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<p>Yes, but put all those things I mentioned together and you have a
highly suspect sentence.<br>
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</span><span>> and the explanation in TKD that</span><br>
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> "Klingon verbs ending in Type 9 suffixes (other than -'a'
interrogative and</span><br>
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> -wI' one who does, one which does) always occur in
sentences with another</span><br>
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> verb,"</span><br>
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And here, that verb is {qaq}. Embedded within this comparative
are the two implied sentences {Qam[taH]vIS qaq Hegh} and
{tor[taH]vIS qaq yIn}.</span><br>
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<p>But you said this suggested that <b>QamvIS Hegh</b> and <b>torvIS
yIn</b> satisfied the <i>noun phrase</i> parts of the
comparative, as if such phrases could stand alone as noun phrases.
Besides this crazy proverb, there is no evidence that <b>-vIS</b>
can do this.<br>
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