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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/14/2016 4:27 AM, De'vID wrote:<br>
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<pre wrap="">On 4 July 2016 at 19:31, SuStel <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:sustel@trimboli.name"><sustel@trimboli.name></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">On 7/4/2016 9:17 AM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:
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{jIDoy'qu'taHvIS jImugh QaQ law' jIghuHqu'taHvIS jImugh QaQ puS}
I translate better when I am tired than when I'm awake
I like this a lot ; I don't know if it is acceptable, but I like it.
It's not acceptable. The format of a comparative sentence is A Q law' B Q
puS. A and B must be noun phrases.
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The proverb {QamvIS Hegh qaq law' torvIS yIn qaq puS} suggests the
formula may be somewhat more flexible when it comes to what a "noun
phrase" is, though. A and B can't be verbs or sentences, but it seems
that {V1-taHvIS N1 Q law' V2-taHvIS N2 Q puS} is an acceptable form.
The commentary in TKW only says that {-taH} is missing in the proverb.
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<p>Given the aberrant grammar, the warning that "in proverbs,
however, grammatical shortcuts are not uncommon," and the
explanation in TKD that "Klingon verbs ending in Type 9 suffixes
(other than <b>-'a'</b><i> interrogative</i> and <b>-wI'</b><i>
one who does, one which does</i>) always occur in sentences with
another verb," I consider this proverb too unreliable to form any
conclusions about new grammar. <b>QamvIS Hegh</b> and <b>torvIS
yIn</b> are either unusual noun phrases <i>(death while
standing, life while kneeling)</i> without the required other
verb, or they're verbal clauses <i>(dying while standing, living
while kneeling)</i> which aren't the noun phrases required by a
comparative sentence. I would need something far clearer before
ever accepting this kind of thing.<br>
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