<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div><span></span></div><div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div style="display: block;" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1468428567818_3342" class="yahoo_quoted"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1468428567818_3341" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1468428567818_3340" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Lieven <levinius@gmx.de><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> tlhingan-hol@kli.org <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, July 13, 2016 11:37 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [tlhIngan Hol] The book of our good captain<br> </font> </div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1468428567818_3339" class="y_msg_container"><br>Am 13.07.2016 um 18:16 schrieb Alan Anderson:<br clear="none">> On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 12:04 PM, mayqel qunenoS <<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com" href="mailto:mihkoun@gmail.com">mihkoun@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">>> lieven:<br clear="none">>>>> ghorgh [bItlhutlh DaneH]<br clear="none">>>>> (a question word in front of a SAO)<br clear="none">>>>> and not<br clear="none">>>>> [ghorgh bItlhutlh] DaneH<br clear="none">>>>> (a Question as object)<br clear="none">>><br clear="none">>> I disagree with Lieven's grouping.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1468428567818_3655">ghItlh Lieven:</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1468428567818_3654">>I like that, as I may be wrong. The problem is that I'm not a linuist </div>>and I lack the correct words. Maybe I have a mindtwist and say <br clear="none">>differently from what I think.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">>After all, there will be no difference in the final phrase...<br clear="none"><br clear="none">>This is how I see the phrases in my head: "you want to drink" - <br clear="none">>{bItlhutlh DaneH}. That's a statement. "you drink" is the object of <br clear="none">>{DaneH}. All fine. Now I change the entire thing to a question adding a <br clear="none">>question word: WHEN do you want to drink ("please state the time of your <br clear="none">>desired drinking event"). In this construction, I see it not as the <br clear="none">>object of the wanting.<br clear="none"><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1468428567818_3425"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1468428567818_3600">Let's not forget the canon construction {HIq Datlhutlh DaneHbogh yIngu'}.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1468428567818_3601"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1468428567818_3602">So, ?{HIq DatlhutlhDI' poH yIngu'}?<br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1468428567818_3603"><br></div><br clear="none">-ter'eS<br><br></div> </div> </div> </div></div></body></html>