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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#44546A">SuStel and I are actually saying the same thing, only he explained it better.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#44546A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#44546A">Another example where the subject is elided is:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#44546A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:Courier"> romuluSngan Sambogh 'ej HoHbogh nejwI'</span></b><span style="font-family:Courier">
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Courier"> a Romulan hunter-killer probe (KCD)<br>
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It’s a small assassination device that has two functions closely connected – {Sam} (“locate” or “seek and find”) and {HoH} (“kill”); so closely that “hunter” and “killer” are hyphenated in English to show they refer to the same thing. Repeating the subject
might imply two separate devices: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#44546A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:Courier"> *romuluSngan Sambogh nejwI’ 'ej HoHbogh nejwI'</span></b><span style="font-family:Courier">
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#44546A"> a Romulan hunter probe and (a) killer probe<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">--<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Voragh<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">tlhIngan ghantoH pIn'a'<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Ca'Non Master of the Klingons<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#44546A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"> tlhIngan-Hol [mailto:tlhingan-hol-bounces@lists.kli.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>SuStel<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 11, 2016 12:04 PM<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 7/11/2016 12:18 PM, Steven Boozer wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<pre style="mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:.5in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:40.8pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt">qunnoq :<span style="color:#44546A"><br></span>Other than that, the first sentence goes :<span style="color:#44546A"><o:p></o:p></span></pre>
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<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>{nughraj Dun lurDechmeyraj Dun je DIvuvta' 'e' lutul <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre> HaDwI'pu' 'ej vItul jIH}<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>But shouldn't there be an {'e'} before the {vItul jIH}? <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>I mean, shouldn't we have the following sentence instead?<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre><span style="color:#44546A">Voragh:<br></span>I think that the second {'e'} before {vItul jIH} has been elided because 1) the two clauses are so short closely related (they have the same verb, if different subjects); and 2) a second {'e'} might make the listener think the sentence-as-object (SAO) referred to was {lutul HaDwI'pu'} and not {DIvuvta'}.<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre> <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre> ... DIvuvta' 'e' lutul HaDwI'pu' ('ej vItul jIH)<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre> The editors hope (and I hope) that we-have-respected-them<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<p>I think it's <b>DIvuvta' ('e' lutul HaDwI'pu' 'ej vItul jIH).</b> The "second sentence" of the sentence-as-object happens to be a compound sentence, but it's still a sentence. The object of the
<b>vItul jIH</b> part is still <b>'e',</b> but it has been elided because it is was already used in the first sentence of the conjunction, exactly the same way that
<b>yaS vIlegh 'ej vIqIp</b> elides an object noun in section 6.2.1 of TKD.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Always, always, always remember that <i>all</i> sentence-as-object constructions are simply two sentences pushed together;
<b>'e'</b> and <b>net</b> are <i>not</i> conjunctions or linking words.<o:p></o:p></p>
<pre>-- <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>SuStel<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><a href="http://trimboli.name">http://trimboli.name</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
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