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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#44546A">The bracketed translation in PK is my own – IIRC this line by the hapless Klingon-speaking tourist was not translated on the tape -- so don’t take it as gospel.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#44546A">FWIW here’s my transcript of the untranslated shopping scene that begins “Power Klingon” (T = Terran tourist, K = Klingon merchant):<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-family:Pica">K<b> nuqneH</b><br>
[<i>What do you want</i>?]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-family:Pica">T<b> 'IH jaj qar'a'</b>?<b> maja'chuqjaj</b><br>
[<i>Beautiful day, isn't it</i>?<i> Can we talk</i>?]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-family:Pica">K<b> jISaHbe'</b><br>
[<i>I don't care.</i>]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-family:Pica">T<b> bISaHbe'</b>?<b> qatlh bIjatlh</b><br>
[<i>You don't care</i>?! <i>Why do you say that</i>?]<br>
<b>chaq SoHvo' vay' vIje' vIneH<br>
</b> [<i>Maybe I'd like to buy something from you</i>.]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-family:Pica">K<b> tugh! SSS... bIje'be'chugh vaj bIHegh<br>
</b> [<i>Hurry up! Buy or die</i>!]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-family:Pica"> <b>quvwIj DatIchpu'</b>,<b> tera'ngan<br>
</b> [<i>You have insulted my honor, Terran.</i>]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="font-family:Pica">bIyIntaH 'e' Daqotlhbe'</span></b><span style="font-family:Pica">
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[<i>You don't deserve to live </i>(“<i>keep living”</i>).]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-family:Pica">T<b> yIjotchoH<br>
</b> [<i>Calm down</i>!]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-family:Pica">T <b>Dochvetlh yItlhap<br>
</b> [<i>Take that</i>!]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#44546A">All of which shows that a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing. Especially on Kronos.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#44546A">Voragh<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Lawrence M. Schoen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 22, 2016 12:43 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 1:28 PM, SuStel <<a href="mailto:sustel@trimboli.name" target="_blank">sustel@trimboli.name</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 6/22/2016 1:19 PM, mayqel qunenoS wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<pre>chaq SoHvo' vay' vIje' vIneH<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>[Maybe I'd like to buy something from you.] PK<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>Maybe the difference is insignificant, but I believe that in the<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>strict sense of the rules, the {chaq} should be placed before the<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>{vIneH}.<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<p>Yep. Consider also <b>reH DIvI Duj vISuv vIneH</b><i> I've always wanted to fight a Federation ship</i> (ST5).<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>My best guess is that the placement of adverbials is different for <b>neH</b> than for
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<p class="MsoNormal">To me, the translation given in PK is ambiguous, which is why I think there's a different question here that needs to be considered. Specifically, is {chaq} modifying the verb {je'} or the verb {neH}.<br>
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In my mind there's no question. The equivocation provided by {chaq} is all about the buying and not about whether you want it or not.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">A clearer translation than that found in PK might be:<br>
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[I'd like to maybe buy something from you.]<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">And of course, as we know Klingon doesn't bother with those useful tools of sentence separation like commas, periods, and semi-colons. That said, I suspect we can all agree that the final {vIneH} is its own sentence.<o:p></o:p></p>
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