[tlhIngan Hol] Question about the focus / topic meaning of *-'e'*
sustel trimboli.name
sustel at trimboli.name
Sat Dec 6 14:43:47 PST 2025
We don't know anything about Klingon poetic meter. We can't go by what we see on TV, because those were originally composed in English using Western poetic sensibilities, then translated.
The -'e' here serves no obvious grammatical need.
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Subject: Re: [tlhIngan Hol] Question about the focus / topic meaning of *-'e'*
Sorry, I knew there was yet another one, but I couldn't remember it. Last question for now, I promise :-)
SaqSub’e’ muSHa’bogh
pawmeH leng qeylIS
HuDmey Sal ghIq ghIr
(paq'raD 7, 1-3)
Since there is only one noun in the relative clause, we don't need *-'e'* to know what's the object of *paw*. On the other side, *-'e'* is always optional in a relative clause. So, is it here just out of stylistic reasons, like the rhythm of the verse? (By the way, what do we know about Klingon meter?).
Thank you!
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