[tlhIngan Hol] Klingon Word of the Day: SuD

[DloraH]

> DloraH once had a web page showing the gradations between {Doq} and
> {SuD} at https://65.13.120.12/tlhIngan/color.jpg but it's no longer
> online.  Has he moved it to another platform?  

I hosted my web server at home, and when I moved after landing my
current job at NASA, I just hadn't bothered with setting up the server
again.
But... that image is on the klingon wiki.
http://klingon.wiki/En/Colors
About half way down the page.

- DloraH



On Wed, 2023-02-22 at 15:35 +0000, Steven Boozer via tlhIngan-Hol
wrote:
> Klingon Word of the Day for Wednesday, February 22, 2023
> 
> Klingon word: SuD
> Part of speech: verb
> Definition: be green, be blue, be yellow
> _______________________________________________
> 
> SuD 'ej wov 
> (it) is {SuD} and light (KGT; a way to refer to a yellowish tinge)
> 
> SuD 'ach wov 
> [(it) is] {SuD} but light (KGT; is also heard)
> 
> SuD Dargh 'ej wov 
> The tea is {SuD} and light. (KGT)
> 
> SuDbogh Dargh 'ej wovbogh 
> The tea that is {SuD} and light. (KGT)
> 
> (KGT 81-82):  Compared to Federation Standard, Klingon terminology
> associated with colors is rather limited. First of all, there is no
> noun meaning color. There is, however, a verb, {nguv}, which means
> something like "be dyed, stained, tinted", though it is seldom used
> except in the phrase {chay' nguv} ("How is [it] tinted?") or when
> suffixed with {-moH} ("cause") in the form {nguvmoH} ("dye, tint,
> stain"; that is, "cause to be dyed," etc.)
> 
> (KGT 82):  Various devices are employed when it is necessary to talk
> about colors more precisely. The suffix {-qu'} is useful as in
> {Doqqu'} (red) and {SuDqu'} (green). {wov} and {Hurgh} may also
> modify colors as in {SuD 'ej wov} (yellow) or objects may be compared
> to something else that typically has a particular color as in {Doq
> 'ej beqpuj rur} "(it) is {Doq} and resembles {beqpuj}" (an orange
> mineral).  [...] The fact that neither {SuD} nor {Doq} includes what
> is called violet or purple in Federation Standard may be related to
> Klingon physiology--that is, exactly how the Klingon eye processes
> different wavelengths of light. 
> 
> (startrek.klingon 2/1998):  "If the context is clear (such as
> contrasting a brown thing with a thing that cannot be described as
> {Doq}, such as something that's {SuD} "blue, green, yellow"), {Doq}
> alone is good enough. Thus, if there are two drinking cups, one brown
> and one blue, one might say:  {HIvje' Doq qaneH} "I want the {Doq}
> cup" [sic! for {vIneH}]. Only the brown cup could be described as
> {Doq}; the blue cup is definitely not {Doq} since it is {SuD}.
> 
> (SuStel, 10/30/2009):  Klingon has four color terms: {qIj} "be
> black", {SuD} "be blue, green, yellow", {chIS} "be white", and {Doq}
> "be red, orange". According to the theory about color terms, yellow
> is always a color associated with warm colors, and blue and green are
> always associated with cool colors. The Klingon verb {SuD} violates
> the hierarchy, and Okrand has confirmed that he did this on purpose.
> It is a linguistic joke.
>  [see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_term ])
> 
> (IMO, HolQeD 8.3):  There is also an idiomatic phrase which conveys
> the idea of jealousy:  {SuD veqlargh mInDu'}.  Literally, this means
> "Fek'lhr's eyes are yellow/green", but it is used to express the idea
> that somebody is jealous. It would be used in an exchange such as: 
>     A:  loSmaH romulusngan SuvwI'pu' HoHta' qeng.
>     B:  SuD veqlargh mInDu'.
>     A:  Kang killed 40 Romulan warriors.
>     B:  Somebody is jealous!
> Speaker "B" is saying that speaker "A" is jealous of Kang.
> 
>  (SuStel, 9/03/2019):  My memory of the thing Okrand did
> intentionally was that according to Berlin-Kay, yellow tends to
> either have its own word, or it is grouped with red and orange. The
> Klingon system groups it with blue and green, which makes sense if
> you look at a spectrum and see that it is arbitrary whether it is
> grouped with red/orange or green/blue, but languages generally tend
> to group it with red/orange. There is no technical reason why human
> languages group yellow with red and orange. They just do.
> 
> (Brent Kesler, 9/04/2019):   The question is where languages draw
> borders between colors. The HolQeD article I dimly remember argued
> that grouping yellow with green/blue is so odd it's almost alien and
> speculated that MO knew about the Berlin-Kay hierarchy, and had it
> mind when he made up the word {SuD} in 1984.
> 
> DloraH once had a web page showing the gradations between {Doq} and
> {SuD} at https://65.13.120.12/tlhIngan/color.jpg but it's no longer
> online.  Has he moved it to another platform?  
> 
> SEE:
> SuD     gamble, take a chance, take a risk (v)
> 
> (PK):  {SuD} also means "take a risk", which may explain the joke:
>     A:  Doq'a' SuvwI'pu'?
>     B:  ghobe', SuD!
>     A:  Are warriors red?
>     B:  No, they are green! 
> 
> SEE ALSO:
> Doq     be red/orange (v)
> nIl     be grassy/verdant (v)
> 
> --
> Voragh, Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
>     Please contribute relevant vocabulary from recent qep’a’mey 
>     or qepHommey. I’ve fallen woefully behind in updating my files.
> 
> 
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