[tlhIngan Hol] new word {pal'ar} "kinsperson, family member"

[Will Martin]

We seem to be looking for a clearly defined boundary for these terms, but my sense is that {chuD} might be as vague as saying, “My people”. It could be family, {tuq}, racial identity, religious affiliation… There might not be all that clear a definition beyond “people you identify with”. If someone insults {chuDlI’}, you get as ready to fight as if they were personally insulting you. It could be that simple.

And the boundaries might move around depending on context.

Like the Arab saying:

"Myself against my brother. Myself and my brother against my cousin. Myself, my brother, and my cousin against the world."

It might take nothing more than a common enemy to define the current context for {chuD}.

pItlh

charghwI’ ‘utlh
(ghaH, ghaH, -Daj)




> On May 27, 2022, at 8:33 AM, De'vID <de.vid.jonpin at gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Fri, 27 May 2022 at 14:06, Iikka Hauhio <fergusq at protonmail.com <mailto:fergusq at protonmail.com>> wrote:
> What is the difference between pal'ar and chuD "people, kin, members of the same tribe/clan"? It seems that both could be used to refer to the relatives of a person.
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> {pal'ar} refers to a family member (a member of one's {qorDu'}). It refers to people related by blood (it's used in the paq'batlh to refer to Kahless' brother and father), and possibly also by marriage (though there's no usage to confirm the latter).
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> {tuqnIgh} refers to a member of a Klingon House (a {tuq}). We've seen examples of Klingons joining the House of some who was not related by blood (e.g., Worf joining the House of Martok).
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> {chuD} is more general and refers to a broader group. It's used in Star Trek Into Darkness, where it was used by Uhura, in speaking to a Klingon leader, to refer to the people who are with him. I don't think they were necessarily his blood relatives, though I suppose they might've been members of the same House. Uhura presumably doesn't know their exact relationship and might've been taking a guess or being deferential or something.
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