[tlhIngan Hol] combining {-meH} and {-bogh} on {-meH}'ed and {-bogh}'ed nouns

[Iikka Hauhio]

There is a simple rule to follow when evaluating {-bogh} clauses: if you remove {-bogh}, the sentence should make sense.

{nep 'ej tojmeH mu'mey} doesn't make sense at all. Thus there is something wrong with the relative clause as well.

Iikka "fergusq" Hauhio

------- Original Message -------
On Wednesday, April 27th, 2022 at 15.21, D qunen'oS <d.koun at outlook.com> wrote:


> Thank you voragh and SuStel for taking the time to reply. But there's something I still don't understand.
>
> SuStel:
>
> > You can make a noun that participates in both a relative cause
> > and a purpose clause, but I don't believe you can 'ej them.
> > You can't say, for instance, nepbogh 'ej tojmeH which lies and for deceiving.
>
>
> But saying {nepbogh 'ej tojmeH mu'mey} isn't somehow equivalent to the {romuluSngan Sambogh 'ej HoHbogh nejwI'} "romulan hunter-killer probe"? If the {nepbogh 'ej tojbogh mu'mey} is correct, then why would the {nepbogh 'ej tojmeH mu'mey} be any different? We just substitute one type-9 with another.
>
> SuStel:
>
> > You CAN say nepbogh tojmeH mu'meylIj your words for deceiving which lie.
>
>
> I hadn't thought of this possibility.
>
> SuStel:
>
> > But why would you want to say it this way?
> > Why not say nepbogh mu'meylIj 'ej tojbogh
> > your words which lie and which deceive?
>
>
> I don't remember the exact context of the {nepbogh 'ej tojmeH mu'mey}; all I remember is that I was thinking something in Klingon, and my mind made the instinctive choice of combining {-bogh} and {-meH} this way.
>
> Of course you're right, and I agree with you. I could just say {nepbogh mu'meylIj 'ej tojbogh}. But I can't stop wondering about the {nepbogh 'ej tojmeH mu'mey}. I can't understand how/why it's any different from the allowed {nepbogh 'ej tojbogh}.
>
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