[tlhIngan Hol] Some short questions

luis.chaparro at web.de luis.chaparro at web.de
Wed Sep 22 13:34:35 PDT 2021

Thank you SuStel, Voragh and Lieven L. Litaer for the very interesting posts! I've learnt a lot, for example, now I know what *noogie* means in English :-)


> I haven't done more than skim the Klingonska page about these things. What does it say that TKD doesn't?

As I understand it, these informations aren't *directly* stated in TKD:

- *Adjectival verbs are stressed as verbs.*
- *Nominalized verbs (nouns created using suffixes /-wI'/ and /-ghach/) are stressed as nouns.*
- *in compound nouns, only the last syllable of the /last stem/ is stressed*
- And speaking of verbs, *the last syllable of the stem is stressed* (that's why I asked about monosyllabic verbs).
>> As an aside: When TKD says *two syllables in a row* it doesn't mean *adjacent syllables*, right?
> Yes, that's what it means, provided the syllables are part of the same word.
Ok, I'm asking because on Klingonska we read about nouns that */If there are syllables ending in glottal stop,/ those are stressed (and stressed equally).* So *in a row* doesn't mean one inmediately after the other, does it? (maybe I'm having problems with my English here). I mean, *Ha'DIbaHmo'* is stressed on *Ha'* and on *mo'*, right?

> Unknown, but almost all verbs are monosyllabic. There are, what, only three or four exceptions?

I'm wondering now if the verbs *He'So'* or *lo'laH* are stressed, as Klingonska says, on the last syllable of the stem?
>> Ok! Just a question: The sentences I wrote (*ghItlhwI' 'op paq*, *'op ghItlhwI' paq*) are not clear, but are they grammatical? Or should I avoid such constructions?
> They're not sentences; they're noun phrases. They are clear, but they are not as distinct as the English translations you're giving them.

Yes, of course, sorry! I meant noun phrases. So, as I understand it: the exact rules for modifiers of noun-noun-constructions are not clear, but my noun phrases aren't ungrammatical and, if context is clear, I can use them.

Anyway, *ghItlhwI' 'op paq* cannot mean *the book/s of some writers*. For that, the *'op* should go before the *ghItlhwI'*. At least, that's clear, right?

>> So, formally I should always repeat information (*wa'Hu' chab vISoppu', DaHjaj naH vISoppu'*) or maybe look for another word (wa'Hu' chab vISoppu', DaHjaj naH vIwIvpu'*)?
> Yes, repetition is fine in Klingon. You might include a je at the end of those to tie the ideas together.

Sorry, I don't understand exactly what you mean with including a *je* (*je* meaning *too*?).

Thank you!

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