[tlhIngan Hol] {'e' qa'} "instead of" with quotations
Steven Boozer
sboozer at uchicago.edu
Thu Oct 7 10:46:48 PDT 2021
Thanks for the explanation of *es gibt". I don't know where I got *es geben* from.
I 'll take your word for it that there are no contractions of verb forms in Standard German but what about non-standard regional dialects (High vs. Low German) both in Germany and abroad (Austria, Switzerland, Alsace, the Netherlands, the Baltics, etc.); the speech of the uneducated and other low-class sociolects; not to mention the old-fashioned German spoken by various emigrant groups like the *Wolgadeutschen* and *Russlandmennoniten* in Russia, the Old-Order Amish and Mennonites (who both speak what is called "Pennsylvania Dutch" in the US), and elsewhere?
Like Spanish *hay* there's only one form in Russian ( есть *yest'*) and the similar-sounding but linguistically-unrelated Hebrew ( יש *yesh*) as well.
Voragh
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From: tlhIngan-Hol On Behalf Of luis.chaparro at web.de
Voragh:
> Lieven & De'vId, is there similar confusion in colloquial or regional
> German between "es gibt" and "es geben"? For that matter, are there
> any contractions of verb forms at all? There are in Yiddish, cf. for
> example
> https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/48848424/contractions-in-yiddish
Maybe I can help here. In German there is only the form *es gibt* for *there is / are*. It's a fixed structure, where *es* is a 3rd person singular subject (but with no semantic meaning here) and therefore the verb always remains singular (*gibt*). It takes an accusative object:
*Es gibt einen neuen Film* (*There is a new movie*)
*Es gibt zwei neue Filme* (*There are two new movies*)
There are no contractions of verb forms like in English.
By the way, in Spanish there is also only one form (*hay*) for singular or plural.
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