[tlhIngan Hol] 'eSpanya' QISmaS (Beginner's text and questions)

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On Wed, 24 Nov 2021 at 03:23, Alan Anderson <qunchuy at alcaco.net> wrote:

> Probably.
>
> HolQeD 8:1 included a "Maltz Online" section which reprinted some of Marc
> Okrand's comments in places like the MSN expertform newsgroup. One of the
> comments was the one answering the question "What time is it?" The relevant
> excerpt is
>
>>
>> *cha'logh Qoylu'pu*This is literally *Someone has heard it twice* or *It
>> has been heard twice.* This is the Klingon equivalent to "It's two
>> o'clock." Originally, this was a statement of time in the traditional
>> Klingon system, but it is now also used for the 24-hour system.
>
> [The "traditional Klingon system" is speculated about, but never quite
> explained.]
>

On Thu, 25 Nov 2021 at 04:22, Will Martin <willmartin2 at mac.com> wrote:

> That’s a rather succinct challenge. Any evidence? Has there been any
> {Qoylu’} references in canon of a PM time?
>

The quoted snippet from the HolQeD article says "Originally, this was a
statement of time in the traditional Klingon system, but it is now also
used for the 24-hour system." That seems to support the claim that
{Qoylu'pu'} is *probably* used with the 24-hour clock rather than the
12-hour one, because we're not told anywhere that it's used with the
12-hour system (unless the "traditional Klingon system" happens to be a
12-hour one, which seems unlikely). The quoted sentence comes right after
the {cha'logh Qoylu'pu'} example, which it says means "two o'clock" (which
the quoted sentence thus establishes as 2 a.m. rather than 2 p.m.).

The article begins by stating in the second paragraph that "There are 24
hours in a day", with no mention of a 12-hour system. The only other
example is {chorghlogh Qoylu'pu'} "eight o'clock". Since the only examples
we have are for hours less than 12, we don't have any examples of a a p.m.
time.

But let's turn this around. The article says the system is used with a
24-hour clock. Is there any evidence that it's used with a 12-hour one? If
so, how does one distinguish "2 a.m." from "2 p.m."?

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