[tlhIngan Hol] Klingon Word of the Day: tIng

Steven Boozer sboozer at uchicago.edu
Tue Mar 9 07:45:40 PST 2021


Another example of “nested” –Daq’s (i.e. “in X [which is] in Y”):

loghDaq lupDujHom qoDDaq bIlengtaHvIS, nIbuQbogh novpu' DaSuv
Battle menacing aliens in a shuttlecraft journey through space.  (STX)

Just FYI here are two other examples, not nested but linked with {je} (i.e. “in X and in Y”)

poSDaq nIHDaq je QamtaHvIS SuvwI'pu', chaH jojDaq yItnIS lopwI'
The initiate must pass through a gauntlet of warriors.  (S9)

(This refers to someone passing between two lines of warriors who jab him/her with painstiks.)

'ej Hoch vengHomDaq Hoch vengDaq je
   Suchbogh ghaH qeylIS luQoy
   woQ le'yo' je 'aghbej ghaH
And Kahless spoke to them
   In every village and city he went,
   Filled with pride and authority,  (PB)

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Voragh
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From: Felix Malmenbeck


I'm not aware of any such rule. Perhaps the confusion is with the rule that you can't put a Type-5 noun suffix on any non-final noun in a noun compound?



There is at least one canonical example of a locative -Daq nested within another:



{tlhIngan juHqo'Daq tlhIng yoSDaq 'oH toQDuj chenmoHlu'meH Daq wa'DIch'e'.}

"1st Construction Site: The Kling District, Klingon Home World"



Source: Klingon BoP poster

http://klingonska.org/canon/1998-11-01-bop.txt<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/klingonska.org/canon/1998-11-01-bop.txt__;!!BpyFHLRN4TMTrA!r406zMkwSAhH7iyQFkmXQYw3AIZTv7eRlk8h-jsWpi8Ha2x58dj5rBHocAnhAna3nG8$>



{tlhIngan juHqo'Daq tlhIng yoSDaq} probably isn't seen as one 4-noun compound that forms a single locative, but rather two 2-noun compounds forming two locatives, one of which is more specific than the other.



(Granted, this poster also violates the rule mentioned above, by describing "wing lights" as {telDaq wovmoHwI'mey}. That might be explained as a shorthand used for labeling purposes, though.)



//loghaD



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From: mayqel qunen'oS <mihkoun at gmail.com<mailto:mihkoun at gmail.com>>

kechpaja:
> Didn't we decide a while back that you
> couldn't do that, though? Perhaps
> I'm misremembering, but I remember
> there being a whole argument about
> how you couldn't have two nouns with {-
> Daq} in a row.

Wow.. Hold on there. Who the jay' said that and based on what Ca'Non?

Who said I can't say {'elaDya'Daq bIQ'a' vengDaq jIHtaH} for "I'm at Greece at a sea city"?

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