[tlhIngan Hol] Klingon Word of the Day: tIng

kechpaja at kechpaja.com kechpaja at kechpaja.com
Tue Mar 9 05:00:15 PST 2021


I don't remember the specifics of the argument, and I'm not entirely 
sure what to search my email archives for to find it, but you're 
probably right.

It's also entirely possible that that particular argument was in a 
context where it was much more clearly a case where the first noun with 
{-Daq} was trying to modify the second, rather than both modifying the 
verb. 

I don't really have a horse in this race, I'm just bringing up something 
that was discussed before in the hope that it might shed some light on 
the current question. 

  - SapIr

On Tue, Mar 09, 2021 at 12:42:54PM +0000, Felix Malmenbeck wrote:
>I'm not aware of any such rule. Perhaps the confusion is with the rule that you can't put a Type-5 noun suffix on any non-final noun in a noun compound?
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>There is at least one canonical example of a locative -Daq nested within another:
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>{tlhIngan juHqo'Daq tlhIng yoSDaq 'oH toQDuj chenmoHlu'meH Daq wa'DIch'e'.}
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>"1st Construction Site: The Kling District, Klingon Home World"
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>Source: Klingon BoP poster
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>http://klingonska.org/canon/1998-11-01-bop.txt
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>{tlhIngan juHqo'Daq tlhIng yoSDaq} probably isn't seen as one 4-noun compound that forms a single locative, but rather two 2-noun compounds forming two locatives, one of which is more specific than the other.
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>(Granted, this poster also violates the rule mentioned above, by describing "wing lights" as {telDaq wovmoHwI'mey}. That might be explained as a shorthand used for labeling purposes, though.)
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>//loghaD
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>kechpaja:
>> Didn't we decide a while back that you
>> couldn't do that, though? Perhaps
>> I'm misremembering, but I remember
>> there being a whole argument about
>> how you couldn't have two nouns with {-
>> Daq} in a row.
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>Wow.. Hold on there. Who the jay' said that and based on what Ca'Non?
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>Who said I can't say {'elaDya'Daq bIQ'a' vengDaq jIHtaH} for "I'm at Greece at a sea city"?
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>~ Dana'an
>lIloS bep scribes pharisees je QaqwI'pu'

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