[tlhIngan Hol] subject of the verb which refers to the verb of a net sao

Will Martin willmartin2 at mac.com
Sat Mar 6 15:47:03 PST 2021


I have all kinds of problems with this.

The if/then doesn’t convey to me that the indefinite person who thinks Gawron is crazy is wrong. It conveys to me that if, yes, there is someone who believes that Gawron is wrong, then somebody is wrong, but if nobody thinks that Gawron is crazy, then nobody is wrong (so I guess that means that everybody is right).

maw’be’ba’ ghawran. Qoch ‘Iv? [Bare teeth, put hand on hilt of disrupter, and look around.]

charghwI’ ‘utlh
(ghaH, ghaH, -Daj)

> On Mar 5, 2021, at 8:04 AM, mayqel qunen'oS <mihkoun at gmail.com> wrote:
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> According to tkd:
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> When the verb of the second sentence has a third-person subject (that is, the pronominal prefix is 0) but the intended meaning is <one> or <someone,> rather than <he, she, it,> or <they,> {net} is used instead of {'e'.}
> {qama'pu' DIHoH net Sov} <One knows we kill prisoners.> As above, the first sentence here is {qama'pu' DIHoH} <We kill prisoners.> The second sentence is {net Sov} <One knows that.> The full construction implies that it is common knowledge that the group to which the speaker belongs kills prisoners.    
> {Qu'vaD lI' net tu'bej} <One certainly finds it useful for the mission.> The first part of this example is {Qu'vaD lI'} <It is useful for the mission> ({Qu'vaD} <for the mission,> {lI'} <it is useful>). The second part is {net tu'bej} <One certainly finds that> or <One certainly observes that.> The full construction might also be translated <One will certainly observe that it is useful to the mission.> Note that although the word <will> makes a more flowing translation, there is nothing in the Klingon sentence indicating future tense.
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> Suppose we want to say: "if someone believes gowron is crazy, he's wrong".
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> There are two options:
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> maw' ghawran net Harchugh, vaj mujlu'.
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> maw' ghawran net Harchugh, vaj muj vay'vam/nuvvam/ghotvam/etc.
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> Which of the two would be the correct choice?
> 
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