[tlhIngan Hol] et cetera {latlh je} in reference to nouns or verbs or both

SuStel sustel at trimboli.name
Mon Jun 28 06:17:30 PDT 2021

On 6/28/2021 7:51 AM, mayqel qunen'oS wrote:
> If someone asked me to describe my understanding of the english "et
> cetera/etc", I'd write the following two sentences:
> "I like cats, dogs, rabbits, squirrels, etc"
> "Whenever I walk, run, travel, do my homework, etc, I listen to music"
> In the first sentence, the "et cetera" is used in reference to nouns,
> while on the second in reference to verbs.
> However, here:https://www.dictionary.com/browse/etc, I read:
> ----------
> etc.
> abbreviation
> and others; and so forth; and so on (used to indicate that more of the
> same sort or class might have been mentioned, but for brevity have
> been omitted):
> You can leave your coats, umbrellas, etc., at the door.
> ----------
> So, I don't know whether my understanding of the english "etc" was
> correct, since I believed that it*could*  be used too, in reference to
> verbs, while here seemingly/apparently it says that it is used after a
> string/sequence of nouns.

Yes, you can use /etc./ with a list of verbs or any other part of 
speech, provided the entire list is just one type (no mixing of nouns 
and verbs, for instance).

> But the real matter is what's the case with the klingon {latlh je}; is
> it to be used only with reference to nouns, or can it be used in
> reference to verbs too?
> If I write the following then it's obviously correct:
> tlhInganpu', romuluSnganpu', vulqanganpu', latlh je vIpar.
> I dislike klingons, romulans, vulcans, etc.
> But can I write the following too?
> jIqettaHvIS, jIvumtaHvIS, jISeDtaHvIS, jIHaDtaHvIS, latlh je, jIDoy'choH.
> While I run, work, drive, study, etc, I become tired.
> I know that the klingon {latlh je} is essentially "and others", since
> the {latlh} is a noun (so one would expect it to being used only in
> reference to nouns..), but I'm wondering whether the {latlh je} can be
> considered a "set phrase" something like the {tu'lu'} which we never
> write as {lutu'lu'}.

No data for an answer. I would expect it to only work with nouns, since 
it's got a *je* with it, but that's not any kind of proof.


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