[tlhIngan Hol] does the {'e' qa'} express a preference supplemental

mayqel qunen'oS mihkoun at gmail.com
Thu Dec 2 04:50:21 PST 2021

SuStel there's something I'd like to ask you.

About a year ago we had discussed about whether the {'e' qa'}
expresses a preference, in this thread:

There my initial post was:

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In english one can say:

"I learn klingon rather than vulcan" ; meaning simply "I don't learn
vulcan, I learn klingon".

On the other hand one can say "I'd rather learn klingon instead of
vulcan", expressing a preference: "I prefer to learn klingon instead
of vulcan".

So, the question is, is the {'e' qa'} just a "neutral" "rather/instead
of", or is it (too) the wishful "I'd rather ?"

The way I understand it, it seems to be the neutral variant, but I
would like to make certain.

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Then you replied:

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In English the preference is expressed by I'd rather or I'd prefer,
not by the instead of or rather than. Klingon 'e' qa' is neutral as to

In Klingon these could be expressed thus:

tlhIngan Hol vIghoj; vulqangan Hol vIghoj 'e' qa'.

I learn Klingon instead of Vulcan.

tlhIngan Hol vIghoj 'e' vImaS; vulqangan Hol vIghoj 'e' vImaS 'e' qa'.

I prefer to learn Klingon instead of Vulcan.

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So far so good. I understand your reply, and everything is clear. But
what I've just wondered is this: Why can't we express the "I prefer to
learn Klingon instead of Vulcan" by just placing a {'e' vImaS} after
the {'e' qa'}? I mean like this:

{tlhIngan Hol vIghoj; vulqangan Hol vIghoj 'e' qa' 'e' vImaS}

Granted, stringing together two {'e'}s in a row isn't perhaps the best
thing to do, but that aside, doesn't the sentence above mean too "I
prefer to learn Klingon instead of Vulcan"?

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